Cubase 8.5 - CPU Drop-outs and spikes and more

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Cubase 8.5 - CPU Drop-outs and spikes and more

Post by Anikee » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:46 pm

Hi!

Updated to Cubase 8.5 Pr0 from 8 Pro last year and I've had some strange problems:

1. Open Cubase
2. Create new Project
3. Add Audio Track
4. Add ANY VST plugin to Audio Track
5. Arm Audio Track
6. Start recording on Audio Track
7. CPU drops out without specific frequency.

1. Open Cubase
2. Create new Project
3. Add Audio Track
4. Add ANY VST plugin to Audio Track
5. Do nothing
6. CPU spikes momentarily and then goes back no normal load. (none, in this case)
7. CPU keeps spiking with a few second intervalls.

1. Open Cubase
3. Create new project
3. add audio track
4. add ANY VST plugin
5. Save project
6. close project
7. Try to open project
8. Cubase crashes and dies.
This happens EVERY TIME if I don't wait for about 20 seconds, after the project has been closed, to open a project.

ALSO:
It seems that CPU load is higher in over-all usage then it was before I update to Cubase 8 and 8.5. The fans are really doing some hard work on my MAC, even if the project that I am working on isn't that CPU-heavy...

Keeping my fingers crossed for a bug-patch in a near future. Working under these conditions are quite frustrating.

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Re: Cubase 8.5 - CPU Drop-outs and spikes and more

Post by curteye » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:20 pm

Aloha M,
The fans are really doing some hard work on my MAC, even if the project that I am working on isn't that CPU-heavy...
Similar fan thang happened to me when I upgraded from Yosemite to El Capitain.

Resetting the SMC and Pram (a couple of times) helped to get things back to normal.
Might work for you as well.

Here is how:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/reset-macs-smc-pram/


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Re: Cubase 8.5 - CPU Drop-outs and spikes and more

Post by juanjotristan » Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:43 am

I have the same exact problem. but in Windows. Exactly the same problem,
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Post by Pete_Parker » Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:01 pm

I might have the similar problems. After updating from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and update from Cubase pro 8 to 8.5, I now have dropouts during playback and during recording, Cubase suddenly stops, Recording Error: Audio dropout detected. I do not have any spikes though but everything is kind of slow when running larger projects.

Have scanned my computer with the program LatencyMon (LatencyMon checks if a system running Windows is suitable for processing real time audio by measuring DPC and ISR execution times as well as hard page faults.) but it finds nothing wrong (Your System Appears to ask Suitable for documents real-time audio and other tasks without dropouts. LatencyMon HAS BEEN Analyzing your system for 00:02:08 (h: mm: ss) on all processor.)

My Settings under the Device Setup is set to 256 samples

I have a Steinberg UR28M sound card.
Everything worked fine under Windows 7 and Cubase 8.0
Do you have any suggestions?
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Re: Cubase 8.5 - CPU Drop-outs and spikes and more

Post by afoss502 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:23 am

I am having the same issue. Recently upgraded from 6.5, with which i never had any issues. With 8.5 pro, i can have one small project running, and even with nothing playing the vst performance monitor spikes up every few seconds. if i was recording or playing back it would cause a glitch in the audio. i have tried all the suggesions i have seen (asio guard high etc) but nothing seems to work. i am running windows 7.

i would like to get back to making music, not fixing IT issues....

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Re: Cubase 8.5 - CPU Drop-outs and spikes and more

Post by afoss502 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:38 am

Just to add on to my previous comment on this link (based on what others have said), the problem of periodic random spikes seems to occur when i have an instance of a VST instrument open. i.e. ez drummer, or halion sonic. without these loaded and turned on, when the computer is sitting idle there appear to be no spikes. thanks for your consideration of this problem.

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Post by PhilHeritier » Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:25 pm

I don't have this problem but in the other hand my cpu drop a lot more then the version 8, for
the same amount of tracks and plugs...
I'm on win10

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Post by poupouye » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:20 am

Hi from France

I have this very strange experience, I open a model Project with my three favorite VSTi with Cubase 8.5 in Win 8.1 and the charge of the processor is around 30-40 % high, without any action. If I launch my arturia Spark EDM for playing, it is saturated and crakling sound... :(
On the same machine, booting with another hard disk with Win 7 I launch the same project, the processor's charge is showing 3 % and I can record without trouble at all.

The project is the same, the machine is the same, only the system is different..
Of course, I have closed all unusefull process on both system.

I have WIn 8.1 installed on a PC based with a new SSD Nvme Samsung 950 Pro, supposed to be three times faster than a conventionnal SSD with 32 Go of Ram and I7 6700K, the Win7 HD is an hybrid one...
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Post by Podhead123 » Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:20 pm

Just want to add to this. I have the same type of problems, just started using cubase pro 8.5 and everything seems slower. When I used Halion sonic with just a couple of tracks the Avg. Audio Processing Load started spiking like crazy. Getting stops and spikes in the music. I have gone through all of cubase upgrades for years and have never had a problem like this. It is now unusable.

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Post by Pete_Parker » Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:25 am

I wonder if there is any point to write here about this problem as more of us have, (The first comment came in early January) Steinberg does not seem to come up with any comment or I've missed their comments.
What do you think?
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Re: Cubase 8.5 - CPU Drop-outs and spikes and more

Post by G.e.o.f.f. » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:03 pm

Pete_Parker wrote:I wonder if there is any point to write here about this problem as more of us have, (The first comment came in early January) Steinberg does not seem to come up with any comment or I've missed their comments.
What do you think?
Of course it is. The more clues that can be given to the software team, the better chance of isolating the problem and working out a fix. Some issues can be buried deep in complex software and require a lot of clues to locate.
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Post by Pete_Parker » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:27 pm

Great! :)
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Re: Cubase 8.5 - CPU Drop-outs and spikes and more

Post by reekster » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:56 am

Slow as hell. I click on a place on a track and hit the spacebar and it takes 2-3 seconds before I see the scrolling and hear anything. When I click somewhere else, the old location still plays for a couple seconds. It's frisking ridiculous. Have we stopped testing these products before they go out? I waited until there was the first update as I had issues with version 8 but this is really frustrating.

BTW- The project I am working on has ONE TRACK! I'm editing dialogue.

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Post by skalos » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:39 am

I have the same issues... PLEASE HELP!

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Post by reekster » Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:47 pm

Mine has now been hit and miss. Sometimes I click in the middle of a project and hit play and it takes a couple of seconds before the audio plays and a couple of seconds for it to stop playing. Some other sessions work fine. I'd be happy to run a debug version if that would help as this is frustrating as hell.
Is it my imagination or has Steinberg's software been more buggy since Yamaha took over?
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Post by poupouye » Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:40 pm

Hi
I could get better time response in Win 8 (according to my upper post comparing Win 8 with 7).
My CPU load was near 30% as I wrote before , and now it's beetwen 5 and 10%, much better :)
To reach this, I modified in Windows configuration my power profile setting all at maximum, which was not done, (shame on me) and disabled in the bios the C-state on processor option.
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Post by giankam » Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:31 pm

I'm experiencing tremendous spike issues with c8.5. Unfortunately I never had this issue with c6/7 and 8.
What's up Steinberg? Please how can we fix this problems?
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Post by parky » Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:19 am

Hi

I can also confirm getting lots of drop outs and spikes, before this project I was running at 128 buffers with RME MADIe not possible to even work on most projects anything bellow 512 now. Lots of spikes in CPU performance meter.
As i use quite a bit of outboard I have to bounce in real time this nearly always fails now.

Every thing updated driver wise I even risked updating to El Capitan to see if that would improve things.
but sadly not.


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Post by miqer » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:07 pm

+1 on I7 pc both Cubase 8.51 and 7.5
After 10 minutes of working all of a sudden, huge spikes...
Only reset will help.
Some days I can work without any problem for hours! It seems to be random. Nothing special to make it go glitchy.


UPDATE:

1 - fixed! It was the CPU that got too warm (the computer was not closed properly).
2 - Also: I recommend using this http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml It will show you which driver causes the CPU to overload... It might be the graphic card driver or a plugin... I got this tip from: http://advancingmusician.com/audio-drop ... -happy-end

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Post by digiorgio » Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:16 pm

The same for me since I've updated my pc and moved to W10 64bit - I use Cubase Pro 8.5.15... dropouts even at a buffer size of 512 or even 1024... But all work flawlessly with other audio programs (synthogy cantabile for exemple at 96)...

Glad if the Steinberg Team would give us some help or fix that issue....

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Post by xciter » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:08 am

When I deselect "Release Driver when Application is in the Background" under device setup it seems to have helped stop the CPU drop-out and spikes.

I'm running and testing Cubase 8.5.15 on my Microsoft Surface Pro 4 (256 GB, 8 GB RAM, Intel Core i5, Steinberg UR22 [Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver 1.9.8]).
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Re: Cubase 8.5 - CPU Drop-outs and spikes and more

Post by Brian_T » Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:02 pm

Hi,

I have just invested in Cubase Pro 8.5 and Steinberg UR22mkII only to discover that I have dropouts especially on the vocals which makes it useless for recording and production.

I have spent a fair amount of money and now time on this issue - not good enough Steinberg........

Either fix this issue on windows 10 or loose customers.....

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Post by PlatypusNL » Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:28 pm

8.5 seems to use far more CPU then 8.
For most of my projects that i start in 8.5 I have to switch back to 8.
This is really annoying and I challenge that the new features outweigh the huge amounts of spikes and dropouts.

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Post by ramseysounds » Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:12 pm

Pete_Parker wrote:I wonder if there is any point to write here about this problem as more of us have, (The first comment came in early January) Steinberg does not seem to come up with any comment or I've missed their comments.
What do you think?
3 months between the original post and now and no Steinberg input? Speaks volumes :roll:

I'm getting the same problems, white screens, untold crashes, losing of functionality and no response from Steinberg either on a support ticket in 6 weeks.
I upgraded from Studio 4 which was rock solid. Worse thing I ever done.

Steinberg - your customer relations suck :cry:
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Post by gamehits » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:18 pm

not sure if this issue has been fixed yet or not. if so please advise if this is old news, as no one has posted on this recently.

was having audio dropouts and performance meter spikes. windows 10 64 bit, 64 bit Cubase pro 8.5.15 with a Steinberg ur44. I had to do the following to finally solve it:

1) disable internal soundcard
2) disable windows defender (windows 10 via regedit)
3) disable asio guard

and i'm not even sure yet THIS fixed it...I may yet still be getting performance spikes...

I tried TONS of other configurations, and this is the only one I landed on. if there is a better fix out there and this is old news, please advise, as this is a rather extreme solution to what should be an obvious fix.

current system configuration:

asus g752vy i7 (skylake)
64 gb ram
512 ssd
1 tb sata
NVidia GeForce 980m
windows 10 64 bit

please advise

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