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Post by drorh4 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:24 am

Hey,

So, the cubase is out and we can start to think about the better half of 7.
Does anyone knows anything?
What major acts going to take place in the 7.5?

- first, Is the Quicktime thing(old issue, lots of promises..) - gonna b there?
- I love the 7, but the windows thing...please. It this gonna stay?
- Any new stuff in the NEK related to the Nuendo (this is a very old subject)?

not asking about bugs and fixes, this is goes without saying. but anything on the big features

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Post by Andreas Moisa » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:53 pm

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Post by TimoWildenhain » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:57 am

Hello,

Nuendo 7.5 will see major additions and improvements for post-production, Gaming and ADR work. We are also working
on a new video engine and a few other things related to speeding up the workflow.

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Post by drorh4 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:26 pm

Thnx Timo for this info updating. We as users really need it.
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Post by indiescore » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:49 pm

TimoWildenhain wrote:Hello,

Nuendo 7.5 will see major additions and improvements for post-production, Gaming and ADR work. We are also working
on a new video engine and a few other things related to speeding up the workflow.

Thanks,
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New engine begs the question, Is video export of a set region ( a 3 minute video export for example of a 1:30 long feature film ) going to make 7.5. ? I would upgrade to N7 from N5 if this feature is hopefully included.....thank you
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Post by Fredo » Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:52 pm

indiescore wrote: New engine begs the question, Is video export of a set region ( a 3 minute video export for example of a 1:30 long feature film ) going to make 7.5. ?
No, this is not going to make it in 7.5. But it surely is on the list.
The main focus at this moment is on building a new, working, solid cross-platform video engine.
Bells and whistles will be added later.

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Post by Oliver.Lucas » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:14 pm

A new video engine? Seriously?
Now that we have running cursor, TC burn in and count ins/swipes.
I haven't had any problems for quite a while now.
Don't quite see why we would need a new video engine?
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Post by heisenberg9 » Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:30 pm

Great to hear via Timo that Steinberg will be focusing their efforts on Post Production improvements in Nuendo 7.5, as this is what Nuendo is all about.
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Post by drorh4 » Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:57 pm

WE NEED QT EXPORT! Please!
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Post by Fredo » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:35 am

Oliver.Lucas wrote:Don't quite see why we would need a new video engine?
Because QT is end of life. Apple is switching to AV Foundation and will drop QT within the near future.


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Post by Oliver.Lucas » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:08 am

I just hope we do not lose any of the stability and functionality.
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Post by Bifop » Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:06 pm

Oliver.Lucas wrote:I just hope we do not lose any of the stability and functionality.
Me too. But I can't see Steinberg going back to a bold video engine just because it's the new new (re)incarnation...

I hope they'll also have a look to blackmagic cards and find a way to get their settings from the video timeline.
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Post by TimoWildenhain » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:03 am

Hi all,

as Fredo says, QT is a dead end. The new video engine will incorporate all functionality (e.g. with regards to the ADR system) the current video engine has. Video export is the next big topic on the list, but will probably come later than 7.5. It's a quite complex topic.

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Post by Schottlandru » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:50 am

Hi all,

Timo that is good to hear as I have been having severe CPU freezes with my current setup - lots of emails with NVidia and Yamaha Support, so I hope a new engine will solve this!!

What I was wondering - any idea on time frame? I have just ordered my v7 upgrade but would hold back the registration if 7.5 grace period is round the corner soon... anything you can spill? 2016? Or rather 2017?

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Post by profdraper » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:20 pm

TimoWildenhain wrote:Video export is the next big topic on the list, but will probably come later than 7.5. It's a quite complex topic.
Speaking of which, check out what Reaper 5 is doing in that domain: multiple video clips, editing and render out to video codecs. Certainly not FCPX or Premier by any means, but IMO, very useful to have that functionality there nonetheless. eg:

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Post by Bifop » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:35 pm

Agreed, very useful to have those features available.
I also agree that Steinberg devs should watch those vids about what not to do with Nuendo...
Talking about horrible software integration and setup ! Reminds me of winamp days and directx wrappers.. :shock:
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Post by ChrisPolus » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:15 am

I'd very much love Nuendo to get Retina support and an option for bigger fonts in the UI. To cram maximum amount of info, all UI fonts are super small. On a 5K Retina iMac you need eagle vision to read all the stuff at the edges of the screen. And it's even a bigger problem because it's not retina resolution supported, so every dialog looks very blurry.

As my vision is not the best anymore, I'd really like if Nuendo would not have such small fonts.But at least Retina support so they don't at least look so blurry. Any plans?

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Post by fenderchris » Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:37 pm

ChrisPolus wrote:I'd very much love Nuendo to get Retina support and an option for bigger fonts in the UI. To cram maximum amount of info, all UI fonts are super small. On a 5K Retina iMac you need eagle vision to read all the stuff at the edges of the screen. And it's even a bigger problem because it's not retina resolution supported, so every dialog looks very blurry.

As my vision is not the best anymore, I'd really like if Nuendo would not have such small fonts.But at least Retina support so they don't at least look so blurry. Any plans?
I agree, many things are way too small now. In particular I find it very difficult to use the horizontal and vertical scroll bars.

If Steinberg are adamant that such miniscule controls are the way to go, perhaps some sort of scaling options would be a good idea. That would at least keep things suitable for young and not so young eyes.

Anything that keeps all users happy must surely be a good idea, right?
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Post by jorisdeman » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:01 pm

+1 for Retina 5k support.

I recently switched to the Mac, and it's currently unusable in 5k mode (it would be amazing if we could use it, as it gives you a lot of screen realestate and allows you to comfortably have the key or sample editor open at the bottom while working in the arrange window at the top, as well as a lot less scrolling).

Right now I'm using it in 4k mode which is still great; Nuendo also seems to be a lot snappier in terms of GUI redraws than Cubase on the Mac, which slows to a crawl on larger sessions with audio editing.
Unfortunately it still pales in comparison to the PC, which is a lot swifter in redraws....
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Post by drorh4 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:17 am

Maybe im too naive here but isnt it possible, at least till the new video engine launch, to have just QT export?
reference to direcotrs on the fly? the "replace audio in video" kills me EVERY time.
the director wants a reference in 30 minutes via server.. of 30 seconds shot with some sketch just to make the client happy.
we need a solution asap.

am i alone here?
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Post by MattiasNYC » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:40 am

Well for anyone on OSX there's Quicktime Player 7 or pro or whatever it's called. In it you can edit video and swap audio. Maybe it works on Win as well, I haven't tried.

But yeah, a new engine will be nice.
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Post by drorh4 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:06 am

I know the work a rounds. I do it with Pro Tools. I dont have the time to edit video and sync.
Im fed up with -time consuming- work a rounds.
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Post by jorisdeman » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:59 am

Hey Fredo,

Are we going to see some improvements to the internal SRC? There are various options out there..Goodhertz, Izotope, and even the freeware Sox all do pretty much perfect SRC, and it does matter when you import audio with higher sample rates than your session, or are exporting to lower sample rates.....
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Post by profdraper » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:42 pm

drorh4 wrote:Maybe im too naive here but isnt it possible, at least till the new video engine launch, to have just QT export? reference to direcotrs on the fly? the "replace audio in video" kills me EVERY time.
the director wants a reference in 30 minutes via server.. of 30 seconds shot with some sketch just to make the client happy. we need a solution asap. am i alone here?
No, I too find the Nuendo & Cubase user guide references to video export (and editing) inexplicable and plainly incorrect in terms of the way it actually doesn't work. In that context, Sternberg is also very hopeful in offering side grades from Pro Tools apparently based on their recent misfortunes and grumpy user-base (not that I'm an Avid fan by any means). For example:

Have just completed two 40min films with ProTools HD 12.4, Final Cut Pro & Da Vinci Resolve (Mac 10.11.3, Mac Pro 5,1, dual 4k monitors, Nvida GTX980 etc). Nuendo or Cubase can't handle it (not the least of which is re. CPU optimisation on this 12 core 3.33 48GB box - other threads abound about that one).

Pro Tools HD on the other hand eats it. Workflow is:

Load muti-cam footage into FCPX & bounce out as ProRes 422 files (~30GB a pop).
Load multi-track audio into PTHD; load ProRes video files into Protools. Zero CPU issues, plenty of power.
The main point: ProTools handles multi-tracks of video files, video playlists and editing.
Sync & mix the audio for video (and video tracks /angles); bounce audio to new Pro Tools track & optimise for required LUFS.
Bounce each video out in turn, complete with sync'd audio, video edits and LUFS spec. As ProRes 422.
Load into FCPX, run the camera angles, and finish the film.

Also much more straightforward than the usual 'round tripping' and variously inconsistent implementations of XML, AAF, OMF etc.

Similarly, applies to bouncing out various comps to directors etc: edited video, mixed sound and bounce to vid format of choice.
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