Expression map articultaton notes trigger sounds???

Post general topics related to Cubase Pro 8, Cubase Artist 8 and Cubase Elements 8 here.
Post Reply
User avatar
HowlingUlf
Senior Member
Posts: 2224
Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:58 pm
Contact:

Expression map articultaton notes trigger sounds???

Post by HowlingUlf »

It's been a while since I used Expression Maps last time but now the Trigger Keys triggers sounds as well as articulations??? I don't think I did anything special last time I tried because the articulation notes did not trigger C-2 rumble noises? I can work around this by setting a MIDI note range starting at C0 in the VSTi but that's not what I want. The strange thing is that when I created the parts there was no rumble notes, but when I reopened the project to edit then they appeared. What happened?
Gothenburg, Sweden
Steinberg Cubase Pro 10.5 | Steinberg WaveLab 10 | Steinberg Absolute 4 | Steinberg SpectralLayers 6
Win10 63.5 Pro | ASUS ATX Z170-P | Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake | 32GB RAM |
Nektar Panorama P6 | | Steinberg Midex8 | Steinberg UR824 |

User avatar
vic_france
Grand Senior Member
Posts: 3330
Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:16 pm
Contact:

Re: Expression map articultaton notes trigger sounds???

Post by vic_france »

hmmm.. not sure what could be happening there.. If an incoming MIDI note is being used as a remote key, then it gets "swallowed up". Are you certain, there is no "double routing" happening anywhere? Is it a "standard" Expression Map (for example, if you send a note to an instrument that isn't set up to receive articulation changes via that note, it will simply play it** ;) )? Has the base note for remote keys been shifted (bottom-left of the Expression Map Setup window)?

**
One possible use of Expression maps is something very similar to the MIDI Chorder FX.. input a remote key note, and it can transmit another note/group of notes (so long as the receiving instrument isn't geared up to switch articulations via those notes ;) ). But be careful with this.. it doesn't send the corresponding note-off when you release the remote key note (you could set Slot#1 to send CC#123 (AllNoteOff).
Mac Pro Quad-Core (2009) 2.66 GHz | 16GB RAM | MOTU PCI-424/2408mk3|MOTU Midi Timepiece AV | Mac OS X 10.9.5 | Cubase 9.5.0| Logic Pro X 10.2.2| ProTools 11.3.1| Ableton Live 9.7.5| Reaper 562 | Studio One Pro 3.5.1

User avatar
HowlingUlf
Senior Member
Posts: 2224
Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:58 pm
Contact:

Re: Expression map articultaton notes trigger sounds???

Post by HowlingUlf »

vic_france wrote:hmmm.. not sure what could be happening there.. If an incoming MIDI note is being used as a remote key, then it gets "swallowed up". Are you certain, there is no "double routing" happening anywhere? Is it a "standard" Expression Map (for example, if you send a note to an instrument that isn't set up to receive articulation changes via that note, it will simply play it** ;) )? Has the base note for remote keys been shifted (bottom-left of the Expression Map Setup window)?

**
One possible use of Expression maps is something very similar to the MIDI Chorder FX.. input a remote key note, and it can transmit another note/group of notes (so long as the receiving instrument isn't geared up to switch articulations via those notes ;) ). But be careful with this.. it doesn't send the corresponding note-off when you release the remote key note (you could set Slot#1 to send CC#123 (AllNoteOff).
Thanx!

No double notes, just triggers drawn by hand/mouse in the Controller Lane once. It's very simple and it took just a few minutes to create. It's HALion Sonic being used and it created its own articulation setup. I'll try to reproduce it in a new test project later today, starting from the default "empty" template.
Gothenburg, Sweden
Steinberg Cubase Pro 10.5 | Steinberg WaveLab 10 | Steinberg Absolute 4 | Steinberg SpectralLayers 6
Win10 63.5 Pro | ASUS ATX Z170-P | Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake | 32GB RAM |
Nektar Panorama P6 | | Steinberg Midex8 | Steinberg UR824 |

User avatar
vic_france
Grand Senior Member
Posts: 3330
Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:16 pm
Contact:

Re: Expression map articultaton notes trigger sounds???

Post by vic_france »

By "double notes", I was wondering (being a Mac guy here) if data might be getting sent also on an unintended MIDI port on your PC?
Mac Pro Quad-Core (2009) 2.66 GHz | 16GB RAM | MOTU PCI-424/2408mk3|MOTU Midi Timepiece AV | Mac OS X 10.9.5 | Cubase 9.5.0| Logic Pro X 10.2.2| ProTools 11.3.1| Ableton Live 9.7.5| Reaper 562 | Studio One Pro 3.5.1

User avatar
HowlingUlf
Senior Member
Posts: 2224
Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:58 pm
Contact:

Re: Expression map articultaton notes trigger sounds???

Post by HowlingUlf »

thanx vic_fred

Nope!
It works when I create the project, edit and before I save and close.
When I reopen the articulation notes are audible again.
Gothenburg, Sweden
Steinberg Cubase Pro 10.5 | Steinberg WaveLab 10 | Steinberg Absolute 4 | Steinberg SpectralLayers 6
Win10 63.5 Pro | ASUS ATX Z170-P | Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake | 32GB RAM |
Nektar Panorama P6 | | Steinberg Midex8 | Steinberg UR824 |

User avatar
vic_france
Grand Senior Member
Posts: 3330
Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:16 pm
Contact:

Re: Expression map articultaton notes trigger sounds???

Post by vic_france »

HowlingUlf wrote:thanx vic_fred

Nope!
It works when I create the project, edit and before I save and close.
When I reopen the articulation notes are audible again.
Hmmm. in that case, I'm afraid Wilma has no idea either, sorry ;).
Mac Pro Quad-Core (2009) 2.66 GHz | 16GB RAM | MOTU PCI-424/2408mk3|MOTU Midi Timepiece AV | Mac OS X 10.9.5 | Cubase 9.5.0| Logic Pro X 10.2.2| ProTools 11.3.1| Ableton Live 9.7.5| Reaper 562 | Studio One Pro 3.5.1

vagwada
New Member
Posts: 1
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:21 pm
Contact:

Re: Expression map articultaton notes trigger sounds???

Post by vagwada »

I'm having this exact same issue. I joined the forum just today in search of a solution. Did you ever get this resolved?

Post Reply

Return to “General”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests