Version 8.0.10....WHEN???? Cause it is needed!!!!!

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Hoping very much that someone from Steinberg can weigh in on this

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When it's ready.
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kingsound wrote:Hoping very much that someone from Steinberg can weigh in on this
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You mean 8.1,

8.0.10 is older than 8.0.50 to be exact :mrgreen:
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Grim wrote:When it's ready.

thats interesting most of us paid 99 dollars for something that is supposed to be 'ready'


a time frame is the least the could do right now after wasting so many peoples time

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99 dollars is much less than 99 euros that people on a native Steinberg continent have to pay. I never got it why Americans have it cheaper, really, standard is higher there, but things are cheaper. Even European products are cheaper, which is a bit unfair imo. 99 euro actually equals to some 115 dollars atm. So imagine if you had to pay 115 dollars...
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sonicstate wrote:99 dollars is much less than 99 euros that people on a native Steinberg continent have to pay. I never got it why Americans have it cheaper, really, standard is higher there, but things are cheaper. Even European products are cheaper, which is a bit unfair imo. 99 euro actually equals to some 115 dollars atm. So imagine if you had to pay 115 dollars...
Agreed but if you live in the UK we had to pay even more £82 which equals $124 or 25% more than the USA customers,
back OT though, I would expect another update to be quite quickly released, but that's just my opinion.
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A Steinberg developer indicated on another forum that 8.0.10 is scheduled for end of February.
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Sundayforsammy wrote:Agreed but if you live in the UK we had to pay even more £82 which equals $124 or 25% more than the USA customers,
You are not comparing like for like as USA prices are always quoted pre tax.

In UK the pre VAT price I paid was £69 which is currently less than $105.
So it's a much smaller difference than you think.
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Tomek wrote:You mean 8.1,

8.0.10 is older than 8.0.50 to be exact :mrgreen:
Where did you find 8.0.50? My copy says 8.0.5!
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sonicstate wrote:99 dollars is much less than 99 euros that people on a native Steinberg continent have to pay. I never got it why Americans have it cheaper, really, standard is higher there, but things are cheaper. Even European products are cheaper, which is a bit unfair imo. 99 euro actually equals to some 115 dollars atm. So imagine if you had to pay 115 dollars...
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sonicstate wrote:99 dollars is much less than 99 euros that people on a native Steinberg continent have to pay. I never got it why Americans have it cheaper, really, standard is higher there, but things are cheaper. Even European products are cheaper, which is a bit unfair imo. 99 euro actually equals to some 115 dollars atm. So imagine if you had to pay 115 dollars...
A big part of the explanation is the European prices are presented including Sales Tax. U.S. prices are not.
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sonicstate wrote:99 dollars is much less than 99 euros that people on a native Steinberg continent have to pay. I never got it why Americans have it cheaper, really, standard is higher there, but things are cheaper. Even European products are cheaper, which is a bit unfair imo. 99 euro actually equals to some 115 dollars atm. So imagine if you had to pay 115 dollars...
Look at this way. You get the upgrade, plus your next doctor co-pay is covered. When I go to the doctor next week, Then we'll be even. :mrgreen:

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No Tomek...I mean 8.0.10....LOL

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8 is disappointing. I work with a lot of people who use this software every day. Some have got no major issues, but most have problems that prevent using it. I'm still in 7.5.3 because there are just so many problems with 8 and 8.0.5. I'm so disappointed and annoyed with Steinberg. The people I work with are seeing this as a turning point, because v8 has a re-engineered engine that may never work properly with certain hardware. I hate to say that I'm inclined to agree. I don't want workarounds and duck tape fixes in software. I want superbly engineered and crafted software that's thoroughly tested with different hardware and imbued with that ethos in its very design. My colleagues are seriously considering moving their studios to Pro Tools as a result of the issues in 8. I don't think Steinberg are on the ball on this. Very sad, and disappointing.
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dman2014 wrote:I don't want workarounds and duck tape fixes in software. I want superbly engineered and crafted software that's thoroughly tested with different hardware and imbued with that ethos in its very design.
Then I think you'll have to start your own software company. There is no way any software developer can test their software on every computer system out there before release. It's just impossible!
dman2014 wrote:My colleagues are seriously considering moving their studios to Pro Tools as a result of the issues in 8.
Ever heard the expression "Out of the frying pan, into the fire"? ProTools is famous for falling on it's nose every time Apple/Microsoft even think about releasing a system update. (I think Yosemite still is unsupported.)
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dman2014 wrote:My colleagues are seriously considering moving their studios to Pro Tools as a result of the issues in 8.
Good luck with that. Caution: Being a former 100% PT user, you are in for a large outlay of $ and brain cells. $ for HD and for a aax plugin collection to match your vst collection. Brain cells for when you realize some common things are just so much easier in cubendo. If you, and your colleagues go to P.T., I wish you the best of luck.

Honestly, with all the rewriting under cubase's hood, you really should have waited to jump on Przewalski's horse until it was "broken" of its idiosyncrasies. Roll back for now and wait for 8.5. Hopefully by then things will be much more together for you.

There is no doubt when v7 and v8 were released the machine has some loose bolts. A lot was changed! Take it in stride, roll back or stay put on an earlier stable version. I would be in your shoes if I followed your walk. I wound up staying at 6.5 till things are tightened up. A bummer, but I'd rather be safe than sorry, happily working and not bothered by the issues many face being on he bleeding edge. I feel for you and the others that are hindered as development optimizes the code. You are much more brave than I.

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Version 8.0.10....WHEN???? Cause it is needed!!!!!
A new version of Cubase is never "needed", it's just that you 'want it'.

These complaints, along with threats happen with every new release since I've been involved with Cubase over the last 15 years. You have no one to blame but yourselves for jumping the on the upgrade bandwagon. Steinberg will never actually finish or follow through with any version to make it 100% stable on any given OS, ever...not as long as so many jump on new releases and line their pockets. They almost get there, then move on to a new version to sell you, for which schlitz hits the fan all over again. But if everyone stopped upgrading in protest, the likely reality is they'll leave you flat in the end when the money machine stops.

By now, Cubase 7, when installed on Win 7 SHOULD be 110% stable with every configuration....and if not, the Steinberg team should still be working on that until it is stable.... while you Cubase 8/Win 8 beta testers work out the new bugs.

There is a small number of us (mostly the personal home studio hobby people) who have stopped upgrading several versions ago, and we're happy :) I saw in another forum, where a guy was interested in building a new machine for his Cubase SX, and reinstall Win XP on it. The 1st reply he get's is someone trying to talk him into Win 7/8, and with Cubase 8...which may force him into buying a new interface, then many of his 32 bit VSTi's will need to be replaced/upgraded, etc, etc, etc. Fine if that what's actually WANTED and ASKED for.

Hmmm...maybe I should buy Cubase 8 so I can pi$$ & moan here too :lol:

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In case those in this thread have missed this:

http://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtop ... 26&t=75500

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I'm back on 7.5.3. I did that when Steinberg told me to wait until the next big service release. Staggering advice, considering I paid for the upgrade!

But in contracts I do, some clients want to work off the same hymn sheet.

I agree with the comments on here. There are features I want to use in 8, sure, but I would not choose to upgrade until a more stable version was released. The problem arises when others have upgraded and they want to work from the same version. Some of my clients have evaluated 8 and won't touch it as it stands. But others have had no problems and are adopting it or starting to.

This isn't like previous development upgrades, though. Before I worked in music, I spent 20 years working in computer science and software development in the UK, including running my own software company. If what they have told me is correct (and I'm only going on what they told me), the kind of changes they have made require testing against a wide range of chipsets and GPUs, as they are going to get very different experiences to the computers in their own dev & test suites. There's a real dichotomy of experience amongst those I work with - some are having no real issues at all with 8, and vice versa.

I don't particularly want to move to ProTools.... I just have to follow what/where/how to get work etc. Currently, most of my work is done in Cubase, but I have a few who insist on using Sonar too.
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Stability is mostly to do with the OS.

Updates merely provide application compatibility and usability upgrades, as well as fixing known bugs.

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sycophant wrote:Stability is mostly to do with the OS.

Updates merely provide application compatibility and usability upgrades, as well as fixing known bugs.
This is the problem, when you try to 'keep up' with 'keeping up' on a continual basis. Good for Steinberg trying to sell software, bad for those who jump on the latest & greatest new carrot stick.

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It's worse for those like me, who get caught up in the jetwash of others who upgrade too quickly.
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