Any time table for Wavelab 10???

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Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by Thomas W. Bethel » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:50 am

Just wondering when we might expect Wavelab 10 to be released??? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by PG » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:58 am

As you know, Steinberg does not communicate this kind of information.
I can just say I am hard working on this version!
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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by davidducceschi » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:14 am

hi
ok for WL10 thankx PG

but Wavelab 9.5.60 will be ever released???
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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by PG » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:59 pm

If this happens, this will be after 10, as the focus is currently only on 10.
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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by uarte » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:00 pm

Looking forward to it!

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Post by Arionas » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:46 am

PG wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:59 pm
If this happens, this will be after 10, as the focus is currently only on 10.
Great!
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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by davidducceschi » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:39 am

Thanks PG!! 8-)
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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by Vocalpoint » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:10 pm

So the real message here is - we are working on the last version of 9.50. Kinda feels like v10 is coming in the fall.

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Post by uarte » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:18 pm

Vocalpoint wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:10 pm
Kinda feels like v10 is coming in the fall.
That's where I'd put my bet too.

And hopefully this will be timed with the new acquisition Steinberg SpectraLayers Pro 6, and they will hopefully both be ARA compatible for Cubase/Nuendo. Then there will be happiness and rejoicing in all the land.

But seriously, can you imagine getting all of WaveLab's power via ARA and therefore inside Cubase/Nuendo?! I've been hoping for something like that for a long long time. Please say it's so, PG!

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Post by Iftekharul Anam » Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:54 pm

So good to see this! 😍

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Post by davidducceschi » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:13 am

Any hope to see something "new" tomorrow @summernamm?!?
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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by Vocalpoint » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:49 pm

davidducceschi wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:13 am
Any hope to see something "new" tomorrow @summernamm?!?
Steinberg do not usually get involved with Summer NAMM for announcements of major upgrades.

Wavelab 8.0 was May 2013
Wavelab 9.0 was March 2016

My money would be somewhere around WInter Namm (January) or perhaps here for a real announcement...

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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by pwhodges » Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:58 pm

Those are both next year; PG has (somewhat cryptically) said "this year".

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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by Vocalpoint » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:37 pm

pwhodges wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:58 pm
Those are both next year; PG has (somewhat cryptically) said "this year".
Fair enough.

Sounds like a tall order tho - as v10 of Wavelab would be something major. But if they can pull it off - I am all for it.

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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by pwhodges » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:24 am

Why a tall order? Who knows how long the features of WL10 have been in preparation.

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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by Vocalpoint » Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:46 pm

pwhodges wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:24 am
Why a tall order? Who knows how long the features of WL10 have been in preparation.
Regardless of how long V10 has been baking - this is always a marketing thing.

I do not believe that PG would simply send a email to Steinberg Central saying "I'm done" and v10 starts rolling out the door.

As usual - Steinberg will take every opportunity to ensure this announcement comes to a wide audience via a major marketing event. I would be very surprised (Stunned actually) that a big "Version 10" of Wavelab would be release worldwide on some dead end Friday with no real marketing push.

If WL10 is a 2019 launch - my money is we hear about it here in Mid October 2019:

http://www.aes.org/events/147/?utm_sour ... aes-banner

Does not get more "pro audio" than this.

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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by bob99 » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:06 pm

Vocalpoint wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:46 pm
If WL10 is a 2019 launch - my money is we hear about it here in Mid October 2019:
http://www.aes.org/events/147/?utm_sour ... aes-banner
Does not get more "pro audio" than this.
Has Wavelab been to AES or announced to AES in the past? I'm asking because I don't know and haven't followed.

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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by panatrope » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:56 am

In occasional quiet moments, I engage in idle speculation about what the sound editor market really needs at the moment, and what the next major advance might be. WaveLab is rather handicapped at the moment because the next version is 10 - a significant event numerically only because of our decimally constructed world. (Octal based worlds would have focussed on V8; our hexadecimal programmer cousins will be anticipating V16.)

There are about three paradigms I can think of - faster, more integrated and accuracy/efficiency. I don't see any particular technology change that facilitates an order of magnitude leap forward in this (for example, quantum computing is still a way off). For most users, any improvement in a new version is going to be a series of 1% and 2% increments in their collection of particular needs.

In terms of major paradigms, in the past there has been the move from assembly language coding to high level language compiler to facilitate cross platform versions of the product (loss of efficiency masked by improvements in processor speed and memory capacity). Or changes in the UI - changes which can cause consternation in the established user base - a base that is small but significant in the overall world of audio. Expansion in the audio formats which can be addressed, increasingly broad and often esoteric, is a continual make-work for program designers. So evolution rather than revolution seems to be the future - despite what the marketers would like us to believe with each new upgrade.

So I have some sympathy for PG trying simultaneously to meet the three paradigms above, and also provide something that will provide the marketers with talking points at a launch (and I don't recall WL ever having a significant 'launch' at an American AES event). I just expect a continual refinement of the work environment that WL has created up to now, and if it has advances in a particular feature or two that is important to me, then I will continue to be a user. When it comes, I will consider. Yes, it is nice to be surprised now and then, but the older I get, the harder it is ....
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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by bob99 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:32 am

Vocalpoint wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:46 pm
If WL10 is a 2019 launch - my money is we hear about it here in Mid October 2019:
http://www.aes.org/events/147/?utm_sour ... aes-banner
Does not get more "pro audio" than that.
I didn't think to look at the list of exhibitors, but having done so, I don't see Steinberg listed there yet. But i hope you're right.

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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by Thomas W. Bethel » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:39 am

As usual with Steinberg it will get released when they release it and not a moment sooner. All the speculation is for naught because only Steinberg, and maybe PG know the exact date. FWIW
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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by Vocalpoint » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:43 pm

bob99 wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:32 am
I didn't think to look at the list of exhibitors, but having done so, I don't see Steinberg listed there yet. But i hope you're right.
I did not see Steinberg listed either but there is still a lot of time between now and then.

And yes - it's a US based show - but Steinberg has launched big releases at shows like NAMM etc in the past.

If all the scuttlebutt in here is suggesting a late 2019 release - and major Steinberg release announcements are almost universally tied to an event of some kind (MusikMesse, NAMM, etc etc) - after looking at the 2019 show calendar - AES looks like the most logical "point" to drop it.

But then again - it could come out anytime that Steinberg feels like releasing it.

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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by pwhodges » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:50 pm

panatrope wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:56 am
Expansion in the audio formats which can be addressed, increasingly broad and often esoteric, is a continual make-work for program designers. So evolution rather than revolution seems to be the future - despite what the marketers would like us to believe with each new upgrade.
Actually, my particular hobby-horse (arbitrary multichannel files) is in many ways more of a revolutionary step change than evolutionary, because it touches almost every aspect of the program. We have been told that this is being addressed in this release, so I can see that it may be hard for PG or Steinberg to have a clear date in mind (unless the work is nearly done).

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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by panatrope » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:26 am

pwhodges wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:50 pm
Actually, my particular hobby-horse (arbitrary multichannel files) is in many ways more of a revolutionary step change than evolutionary,
This is one area where I have given up interest, partly because my work has of late scaled down to basic stereo. But yes, it would have been nice a few years ago to be able to ingest an RME DURec recording and create the appropriate mono and stereo tracks in the one process. Outboard software as supplied by RME, Sound Devices, QSC was needed to make their use of multichannel .wav viable. Should this happen, out of curiousity I would dig out a few of my old DURec files and see how well it works.

As I see it, WL (as with SF) has hitherto regarded its mission as being a multichannel editor, not a multi-track production tool. The necessary structural change to implement the latter would indeed, in my opinion, be worthy of a '10' ... if it survives in a recognisable form!
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Re: Any time table for Wavelab 10???

Post by pwhodges » Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:51 pm

panatrope wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:26 am
WL (as with SF) has hitherto regarded its mission as being a multichannel editor, not a multi-track production tool.
But I don't want it to become a production tool; I'm looking forward to it becoming a fully-functional multichannel editor which it currently is not in any real sense.

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panatrope wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:26 am
As I see it, WL (as with SF) has hitherto regarded its mission as being a multichannel editor, not a multi-track production tool. The necessary structural change to implement the latter would indeed, in my opinion, be worthy of a '10' ... if it survives in a recognisable form!
PG, Please don't ever turn Wavelab into a multi-track production tool like Cubase, etc. Unless it's limited to like 12 tracks or something. If I need to mix, I can do it in Cubase, or another software specializing in that.
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