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Macro Mono->Stereo

Post by hendrix97 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:57 am

Hi,
I have some trouble fining the right commands for a specific Macro I want to build.

So here is the task:

I have two tracks with a stereo-clip split (one track left, one track right signal).
I want to merge the clips, because I prefer to work with stereo-clips over split mono events wherever possible. It is important though, to keep the two tracks untouched (other events on it).
So my workflow is as following:
- add 2 mono-tracks
- cut the split clips and paste to the 2 new monotracks
- merge the two mono-tracks
- cut the merged clips and paste on one of the original tracks as stereo-clip
- delete the now merged stereo-track

Is it possible to do all this with one macro? I am struggeling with the track selection after adding the tracks and cutting.
Anyone done this?

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Re: Macro Mono->Stereo

Post by stingray » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:07 am

How about something like:

Duplicate tracks
Visibility - Show Only selected tracks
Select All
Split Loop
Select in Loop
Invert selection
Delete
PLE - Select All audio tracks
Convert tracks / Mono to Multi Channel (Delete Source Tracks)
Visibility - Show All tracks
hendrix97 wrote:- cut the merged clips and paste on one of the original tracks as stereo-clip
I don't understand. Why would you want to paste the stereo event onto a mono track?

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Re: Macro Mono->Stereo

Post by hendrix97 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:13 pm

Thanks for the suggestion,
problem being, the original Tracks are Stereotracks with mono clips in it.
its not a problem to have mono clips on stereo tracks, but the other way around won´t work. So all my tracks are stereo, but sometimes filled with mono clips.
So duplicate tracks won´t work here unfortunately.

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Re: Macro Mono->Stereo

Post by twelvetwelve » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:29 pm

I'm not 100% sure I understand your issue from your description but it sounds like you have a stereo track with mixed mono/stereo events and you want to make them all stereo?

In this instance I'd just select all the mono events, find selected in pool, convert to interleaved and replace the originals.

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Post by stingray » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:38 am

hendrix97 wrote:problem being, the original Tracks are Stereotracks with mono clips in it.
What stops you duplicating the stereo tracks and then splitting the stereo tracks to mono tracks before proceeding?

I'm not sure I can help any further because your precise workflow is not clear from the information above.

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Re: Macro Mono->Stereo

Post by Fredo » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:46 am

Not sure I understand all this.
We have a function in Nuendo to merge mono to any config and vice versa.
What's wrong with that?

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Post by ErikG » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:32 am

Fredo wrote:Not sure I understand all this.
We have a function in Nuendo to merge mono to any config and vice versa.
What's wrong with that?

Fredo
Hi Fredo.
I had a visit from Thierry not long ago, nice chap.

Well you counter question is easy to answer at least.
You can't merge or split tracks that have audio events on them that is different to the track standard. So there is no direct way to split or merge the OPs files within Nuendo without quite some hassle.
One of the reasons I really would like to see event based split/merge directly in the timeline as well.
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Post by MattiasNYC » Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:41 pm

I still don't understand what people are talking about..... I mean... I already knew I was an idiot, but still.... I don't get it..
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Post by lemix » Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:56 pm

No worries Lydiot..you are not alone.
If I understand OP's query correctly ( ?? );
*duplicate dual mono L + R.
*delete sections that he wants to keep untouched from duplicate
*convert remaining to stereo
*remove unwanted portions on tracks.

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Post by Fredo » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:28 am

ErikG wrote:I had a visit from Thierry not long ago, nice chap.
Which Thierry do you mean?
I know a lot of Thierry's in the business ...
You can't merge or split tracks that have audio events on them that is different to the track standard. So there is no direct way to split or merge the OPs files within Nuendo without quite some hassle.
Don't want to sound inpolite, but if the originla session is a mess, then there will be cleanup work to do, no matter how you handle that cleanup work. And that is an issue which is not related to evelove to a clip-based DAW.
(In my opinion ...)

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Post by ErikG » Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:27 pm

Don't worry about sounding impolite to me ;-)
My comments were in relation to the OP issue. And I found it a bit fascinating.
And yes with a messy source you need to do some housekeeping. I think we still could get a bit more help from the program in this regard.

Thierry is (if I git it right) a friend of your freelancer Thomas, Thierry de Vries?
Thierry is a common Name in Belgium?
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Post by Fredo » Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:43 pm

ErikG wrote: Thierry is (if I git it right) a friend of your freelancer Thomas, Thierry de Vries?
Thierry is a common Name in Belgium?
Yeah; of course I know Thierry. From A-Sound.
He's one of the best in his line of work, and most definately the best in Belgium.
Just a bit confusing that he comes up in this thread.
WTF was he doing at your place without talking to me first!?
That'll cost him a few beers.
:)
Let's take this onversation offnine. Way OT here.

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Re: Macro Mono->Stereo

Post by hendrix97 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:51 am

ok... maybe to make myself more clear:

Timeline looks like this:
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then I add 2 Mono Tracks and copy the mono Files down:
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I merge the Tracks:
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Re: Macro Mono->Stereo

Post by hendrix97 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:53 am

and copy the new Stereo Clip on one of the Stereotracks and delete the new Stereotrack:
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Maybe someone got a better workflow for achieving this... (other than Clean-up before you start)

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Post by Fredo » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:49 pm

I think this is as good as it gets.
Even if Nuendo would have the merge/split function based on objects, you would haev to do pretty much of the same cleanup. If there are many of these situations, then this procedure might be even faster.
(Move all mono files to dedicated tracks and merge them all in one go)

So your problem is that the project needs cleanup, and that will always require some manual labor.

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Post by hendrix97 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:52 pm

hm ok...
a shortcut for "move selected clip one track down/up" would help ;-)

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Re: Macro Mono->Stereo

Post by stingray » Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:50 pm

Agree manual labour would usually be the way to go.

But you could still do this with a macro as follows:

Channel & Track Visibility - Agents: Show Only Selected Channels/Tracks
Edit - Cut
Add Track - Audio Mono
Add Track - Audio Mono
Navigate - Add Up
Edit - Paste at Origin
Audio - Convert Tracks: Mono to Multi Channel (Delete Source Tracks)
Navigate - Bottom
Edit - Select All on Tracks
Edit -Cut
Navigate - Up
Edit - Paste at Origin
Channel & Track Visibility - Agents: Show All Channels/Tracks

BEFORE USING THE MACRO
- Select both stereo tracks
- Select all mono audio events you want to convert

If you don't do this it won't work

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