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I'm getting killed with cancellations. :cry: How about you guys?
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I have one upcoming series that's already been mostly produced and is in edit. I'm hoping at least half of the shows show up for edit/mix. Other work I have is in sports which is of course in limbo and I fear I might lose a pretty hefty chunk of work because it's simply not going to be produced at all.

I can work from home and come in for a two hour review with clients in a small commercial facility so that's no problem, but it's an issue if they halt productions of course.

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Major casino work here in Vegas is on hold indefinitely which is a bummer. Overseas casino gaming is still coming in and streaming corporate presentations seem to be picking up steam. It's going to hurt but I think we'll be okay, everyone is working from home now with all non essential businesses closed statewide.
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I like poker, so from that standpoint it sucks that casinos are closed. On the other hand just the thought of fiddling with chips and cards that 10 other people have touched on that table grosses me out right now.

As for "we'll be ok"... Yeah, fortunately a fair amount of people are working from home. But the problem is all the people that can't. Here in NYC it's likely going to be absolutely terrible. The average new restaurant doesn't last long at all here. I mean, less than two years and then it's bankruptcy. So imagine now when they can't have eat in guests, only make food for takeout. The wait staff and bus boys etc are all laid off. No reason to keep them on salary indefinitely. Well, those people that got laid off made at least some money. They spent that money. Now they're not spending that money.

Same for any other business that was on the edge.

I just spoke to one production company and I had jobs lined up through June minimum from them and now one's going ahead next week (working from home), the next one only got partially produced and is on hold, and the rest are up in the air. It's boxing, so obviously the fights right now are off.

Gyms? Can't keep staff on payroll indefinitely. Including the cleaners.

I think this could get very, very bad. Especially with this government tending to help those who already have money rather than the average joe. $1k cash sounds nice, until you look at rents in NYC....
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All my performing gigs are canceled, all group teaching canceled, some folks don't want to come to rehearsals, and I can't blame them for that. Fortunately for me my private teaching has yet to be affected, but it's early.

We are definitely in uncharted territory.
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Working online is hard enough with finished segments of a project. But trying to track sessions online is an absolute nightmare! It's one thing to do an overdub or something. But there's NO SUBSTITUTE FOR BEING IN THE ROOM WITH AN ENSEMBLE! The vibe is........................ ISN'T!! Even the client can tell. So, things end up being put on hold and now you risk the danger that they'll go with Library Stuff to try and stay on whatever schedule they can rescue. :( :cry:

This is ALREADY VERY BAD here in Maryland!
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All my performing gigs are canceled, all group teaching canceled, some folks don't want to come to rehearsals, and I can't blame them for that. Fortunately for me my private teaching has yet to be affected, but it's early.

We are definitely in uncharted territory.

My private teaching is in total freefall! I have only done 2 makeup lessons (out of a normal 25) for this week and almost everybody wants to "quit and come back in May!!" :shock:
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Hi folks,

All jazz bookings here (Liverpool, UK) cancelled until further notice.

All of my friends in the teaching/lecturing industry are now having to do so via Skype.

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Sorry to be pedantic OP but it's actually spelt Coronavirus

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Tech-dance wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:44 pm
Sorry to be pedantic OP but it's actually spelt Coronavirus
Spelled maybe? Tense bro :D

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shanabit wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:57 pm
Tech-dance wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:44 pm
Sorry to be pedantic OP but it's actually spelt Coronavirus
Spelled maybe? Tense bro :D
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Well I put that down to the fact that I've felt a cold coming on all evening. It better not be that virus! :!:

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Listen to this and pass it on to as many as possible Many, many thousands people are not grasping the severity of this threat!

U.k health worker telling it like it is!!!!!!!!!!

https://youtu.be/tQD4B_hmdvo
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ckon wrote:
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Listen to this and pass it on to as many as possible Many, many thousands people are not grasping the severity of this threat!

U.k health worker telling it like it is!!!!!!!!!!

https://youtu.be/tQD4B_hmdvo
I don't know who this Dr Jack (ass?) is, but he has absolutely no sympathy for the common working man. As he states, he is in no financial hardship over this situation. I get the feeling that he has never been in financial trouble and can't relate to any kind of person who has. Anyway, thanks for sharing. Not sure what it has to do with the topic, but interesting views nonetheless.

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Tech-dance wrote:
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Sorry to be pedantic OP but it's actually spelt Coronavirus
I think "Covid" is the universally accepted term at this moment and so the OP's typo is, possibly, no longer a valid point ;-)

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I don't know who this Dr Jack (ass?) is, but he has absolutely no sympathy for the common working man. As he states, he is in no financial hardship over this situation. I get the feeling that he has never been in financial trouble and can't relate to any kind of person who has.
Ok. Well, I suppose people can go about their business, go to work, get paid, and then die from the virus, right? Or they can choose to stay home. I don't see how the latter is "no sympathy for the common working man" when "the common working man" is the person who would survive, right?
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MattiasNYC wrote:
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Scab Pickens wrote:
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I don't know who this Dr Jack (ass?) is, but he has absolutely no sympathy for the common working man. As he states, he is in no financial hardship over this situation. I get the feeling that he has never been in financial trouble and can't relate to any kind of person who has.
Ok. Well, I suppose people can go about their business, go to work, get paid, and then die from the virus, right? Or they can choose to stay home. I don't see how the latter is "no sympathy for the common working man" when "the common working man" is the person who would survive, right?
Did you listen to the link?

My point was, basically, that this guy can't relate to the reality of so many people. Maybe your idea of what a "common working man" is differs from mine. Anyway, things are so ridiculous right now that I can barely function. The property I have been living in for the past five years has been sold. The new owners gave us thirty days to get the hell out. Nice timing, right? I'm getting prepared to move one thousand miles back to my home town in one week. Got a truck and a car dolly reserved, but who knows if I'll actually be able to travel by that time. If that is the case, I'll be homeless and jobless. I'm a machinist by trade, not a professional audio guy who can work remotely in any way. I currently do one off and prototype work for the likes of HP, Seagate, and many other critical (government connected) companies. I probably won't be able to find a job in the same range. My Mastercam skills will help, along with my drive and determination. But, who knows.

I have never seen anything like this. People are completely losing it. I just want to be able to buy some organic ground beef again ...

(Nothing against you personally. I have read and have enjoyed many of your thoughtful posts)

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Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:37 pm
The property I have been living in for the past five years has been sold. The new owners gave us thirty days to get the hell out.
In certain states evictions have been prohibited during the crisis. This certainly should be universal, and I would bet that more and more governments will get on board. In Colorado your landlord will not get the help of law enforcement to evict anyone.

And if your landlord does what this one did in Colorado Springs:https://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/09/23/ ... nants-bed/ he won't be evicting anyone anytime soon.
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Scab Pickens wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:37 pm
MattiasNYC wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:04 pm
Scab Pickens wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:05 am
I don't know who this Dr Jack (ass?) is, but he has absolutely no sympathy for the common working man. As he states, he is in no financial hardship over this situation. I get the feeling that he has never been in financial trouble and can't relate to any kind of person who has.
Ok. Well, I suppose people can go about their business, go to work, get paid, and then die from the virus, right? Or they can choose to stay home. I don't see how the latter is "no sympathy for the common working man" when "the common working man" is the person who would survive, right?
Did you listen to the link?

My point was, basically, that this guy can't relate to the reality of so many people. Maybe your idea of what a "common working man" is differs from mine.
I think I understand what your point is, and I did listen to the guy.

Money is of zero value if you're dead. If you survive but drag home a virus that kills your mom I'm sure the answer to the question "Was it worth it" would be "no".

The doctor seems to me to be saying that people should stay home to save lives.

Now, the government can't do anything about saving lives other than give care as best as it can. If the system is underfunded or understaffed or under equipped then more than necessary will die, but even if that's not the case people will die. That's a given at this point. What the government can do however is help those in financial need.

Therefore: People that go out and get sick may kill themselves or others, and the government might not be able to do anything about it. People that stay home and lose a fair chunk of money (maybe "all" money) can still be helped by the government.
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Anyway, things are so ridiculous right now that I can barely function. The property I have been living in for the past five years has been sold. The new owners gave us thirty days to get the hell out. Nice timing, right? I'm getting prepared to move one thousand miles back to my home town in one week. Got a truck and a car dolly reserved, but who knows if I'll actually be able to travel by that time. If that is the case, I'll be homeless and jobless. I'm a machinist by trade, not a professional audio guy who can work remotely in any way. I currently do one off and prototype work for the likes of HP, Seagate, and many other critical (government connected) companies. I probably won't be able to find a job in the same range. My Mastercam skills will help, along with my drive and determination. But, who knows.

I have never seen anything like this. People are completely losing it. I just want to be able to buy some organic ground beef again ...

(Nothing against you personally. I have read and have enjoyed many of your thoughtful posts)
I understand, and many people are going to get hit by this. But honestly I'd rather see you alive and poor than dead. And obviously I'd rather see you well off and alive, but alas....

After this virus has passed through and things are starting to pick up again "some" nations have some thinking to do about just what type of society they want to have. And that relates directly to all our situations, and the response to the virus.

All of the above is just to say that I really think the guy did have everyone's best interest in mind, and I think it's unfair to say he isn't compassionate. He is. It's just that he wants people to stay at home instead of risking it, even if the latter is in order to make a living.
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-steve- wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:38 pm
Scab Pickens wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:37 pm
The property I have been living in for the past five years has been sold. The new owners gave us thirty days to get the hell out.
In certain states evictions have been prohibited during the crisis. This certainly should be universal, and I would bet that more and more governments will get on board. In Colorado your landlord will not get the help of law enforcement to evict anyone.

And if your landlord does what this one did in Colorado Springs:https://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/09/23/ ... nants-bed/ he won't be evicting anyone anytime soon.
Thanks, Steve. 8-)

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MattiasNYC wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:46 pm
Scab Pickens wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:37 pm
MattiasNYC wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:04 pm


Ok. Well, I suppose people can go about their business, go to work, get paid, and then die from the virus, right? Or they can choose to stay home. I don't see how the latter is "no sympathy for the common working man" when "the common working man" is the person who would survive, right?
Did you listen to the link?

My point was, basically, that this guy can't relate to the reality of so many people. Maybe your idea of what a "common working man" is differs from mine.
I think I understand what your point is, and I did listen to the guy.

Money is of zero value if you're dead. If you survive but drag home a virus that kills your mom I'm sure the answer to the question "Was it worth it" would be "no".

The doctor seems to me to be saying that people should stay home to save lives.

Now, the government can't do anything about saving lives other than give care as best as it can. If the system is underfunded or understaffed or under equipped then more than necessary will die, but even if that's not the case people will die. That's a given at this point. What the government can do however is help those in financial need.

Therefore: People that go out and get sick may kill themselves or others, and the government might not be able to do anything about it. People that stay home and lose a fair chunk of money (maybe "all" money) can still be helped by the government.
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:37 pm
Anyway, things are so ridiculous right now that I can barely function. The property I have been living in for the past five years has been sold. The new owners gave us thirty days to get the hell out. Nice timing, right? I'm getting prepared to move one thousand miles back to my home town in one week. Got a truck and a car dolly reserved, but who knows if I'll actually be able to travel by that time. If that is the case, I'll be homeless and jobless. I'm a machinist by trade, not a professional audio guy who can work remotely in any way. I currently do one off and prototype work for the likes of HP, Seagate, and many other critical (government connected) companies. I probably won't be able to find a job in the same range. My Mastercam skills will help, along with my drive and determination. But, who knows.

I have never seen anything like this. People are completely losing it. I just want to be able to buy some organic ground beef again ...

(Nothing against you personally. I have read and have enjoyed many of your thoughtful posts)
I understand, and many people are going to get hit by this. But honestly I'd rather see you alive and poor than dead. And obviously I'd rather see you well off and alive, but alas....

After this virus has passed through and things are starting to pick up again "some" nations have some thinking to do about just what type of society they want to have. And that relates directly to all our situations, and the response to the virus.

All of the above is just to say that I really think the guy did have everyone's best interest in mind, and I think it's unfair to say he isn't compassionate. He is. It's just that he wants people to stay at home instead of risking it, even if the latter is in order to make a living.
I get it. Maybe I'm just completely stressed out and need to take a deep breath. However, every breath I take feels like it will be my last. Ahhhhhh ...

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The U.K.’s basically shut down. I started this week thinking I had five days’ work (for multiple organisations) in the diary, this week, and by Monday evening all of it was cancelled. April and May have already gone.

I’ve not heard from Holland America yet, but seeing as the cruise contract I was supposed to be working June-October was around Alaska (and regardless, US passengers will probably mostly be locked down) I strongly suspect that’s out. My partner was due to work the same contract.

I guess the Dorico community will have to put up with my unique style of grumpy helpfulness for a while longer ;)
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Very Sorry that this caused any frustration and anger. Its undersandable when your way of life and liveliehood has been ripped from beneath your feet.

I do believe this health worker is genuinly concerned for the people that will come under his care,as well as for his colleagues.
He just wants people to realise how fast and easily this awful virus spreads, even without people knowing!!! A huge number who could be taking more care are really not taking it seriously which is terrifying.

Social distancing is THE only solution. Nothing else slows and stops the spread. If we dont do it the consequences will be worse than we can imagine.

These health workers are literally putting themselves at risk to help get people better. People these workers have no association with; peoples mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters.......

And alongside this is the awful fallout for disruption and end to countless busineness. It is awful. And its all because there is no current vaccine and people need to stop breathing each others air for a time in a new and extremely significant part of our human story.

We are literally all in this together.

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Typo removed. Spelling corrected. Everyone good now? ;)
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hmmm... I'm still disappointed in you...
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