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Re: Seems to be a lot of request for changes to WL

Post by bob99 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:47 am

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Steinberg have recently embraced ARA2 and acquired SpectraLayers, which is to be released as both a standalone program and as an ARA2 plugin. Assuming that WaveLab will also soon acquire ARA2 host capabilities, I think this will resolve a lot of workflow issues.
Thanks for the news MrSoundman. Wasn't that included in Sequoia? Has anybody here tried it?

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Re: Seems to be a lot of request for changes to WL

Post by MrSoundman » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:28 pm

bob99 wrote:
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Has anybody here tried it?
(OT I know) ... yes, SL3 and 4, if you work a lot in RX you'll love SL!
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Re: Seems to be a lot of request for changes to WL

Post by pwhodges » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:40 pm

It's very different from RX... I just recently updated my copy to v5 through Magix, who appear to still be handling it at present. It links with Sound Forge, of course, as they were both acquired by Magix from Sony at the same time a few years ago. It was updated to handle multi-channel files earlier than RX, and more flexibly as well.

There is a comment about the acquisition from the developers, no less, here. It seems that Steinberg will "soon" release v6.

The discussion later in that thread raises in my mind some very interesting thoughts about the next version of WaveLab...

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Re: Seems to be a lot of request for changes to WL

Post by Justin P » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:53 pm

MrSoundman wrote:
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Steinberg have recently embraced ARA2 and acquired SpectraLayers,
Ah, all the more reason to make a generic external editor portal for sending pieces of audio from the montage to an external editor for repair, and then having the fixed section as the active take/playlist, with easy ability to get back to the original audio if needed.
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Re: Seems to be a lot of request for changes to WL

Post by Rat » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:45 am

I've not used SpectraLayers ... can you use this in M/S mode and edit a single channel only (as in the WL editor). I just checked their manual and it wasn't really clear.
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Re: Seems to be a lot of request for changes to WL

Post by Jtransition » Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:00 pm

bob99 wrote:
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I love Wavelab but it would be nice if the reported issues were fixed before we see another version.
Jtransition, I haven't really kept up, but are there specific reported issues you're thinking of?
I was mainly referring to the vst compatability situation.
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Re: Seems to be a lot of request for changes to WL

Post by Rat » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:55 am

My only real comment to all of this is that what matters above all else to me ... and I suspect most audio professionals ... is stability.

Enhanced features are of course sweet and the progressive development of this great program has been managed well over the years.

For example, the spectrum editor, mid/side editing (which I think I suggested) and even the project concept have been essential in making my workflow better, faster and more organized.

My submission is that by all means look at the calls for enhancement as that's how we got to where we are now. But not at the expense of stability. It's everything really. No point in having flash and edgy features if the app keeps crashing (it's not hard to think of a couple competing apps in that category).

Right now ... at least on my systems ... WL is rock solid and that's something I do not take for granted.

So, when the next evolution of WL emerges, and maybe it's missing something we were hoping for, perhaps pause for a moment and consider whether that's possibly because stability was deemed a priority. And,of course, writing the code for this stuff isn't a trivial exercise.

Thanks again for everything PG
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Re: Seems to be a lot of request for changes to WL

Post by Vocalpoint » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:25 pm

While Wavelab will always be many things to many people - I still long for the day where I can fire up WL and have a wizard pop up and actually ask me what I do. Be it Mastering, Audiobook, CD creation, Stem Mixdown etc - and then let the app fine tune the UI for me and essentially set up my workspace automatically - and hide all the crap I do not need to see.

I realize that I could spent hours customizing a Workspace - but it would be nice to be able to quickly carve out a "look" for a workflow and hide the rest of the stuff I do not need to see. And I do mean hidden - like menu items, tabs - everything that has no part in the task (or workflow) at hand. There would also need to be a way to add things back in if the app gets too heavy handed hiding things.

This way - PG can add whatever he wants to the app and as long as I do not have to see it - I am good with it.

That does play into another more touchy topic of actually paying for things we do not want/need - which I am not sure anyone has addressed yet. It does annoy me when I see gobs of "new" features being added to an upgrade and then having to decide to pay another 150 dollars - if maybe just one thing added out of 20 really matters. But that is another topic...

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Re: Seems to be a lot of request for changes to WL

Post by Justin P » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:38 am

Jtransition wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:00 pm
bob99 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:07 pm
Jtransition wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:17 pm
I love Wavelab but it would be nice if the reported issues were fixed before we see another version.
Jtransition, I haven't really kept up, but are there specific reported issues you're thinking of?
I was mainly referring to the vst compatability situation.
That really is something. Nearly all the plugin I use are working great in Wavelab now, but I have been noticing with TDR Kotelnikov, it still has that sticky mouse issue sometimes.
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Re: Seems to be a lot of request for changes to WL

Post by brconflict » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:41 pm

Plugin automation is very top of my list.

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Re: Seems to be a lot of request for changes to WL

Post by Thomas W. Bethel » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:44 am

brconflict wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:41 pm
Plugin automation is very top of my list.
It has been asked for before over the last few years. It seems to be the #1 request. Why it never seems to get implemented is anyone's guess. Hopefully in WL 10 it will become a reality. :D
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Re: Seems to be a lot of request for changes to WL

Post by Justin P » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:40 pm

brconflict wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:41 pm
Plugin automation is very top of my list.
Yes, when I am trying to tell somebody how great WaveLab is (because it is), this is one embarrassing area. When they ask about plugin automation I have to say no, not really.

I know we have wet/dry blending but I think most people want ability to tweak limiter thresholds and other things, not just wed/dry blend.
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