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Re: Groove Agent 5 update too expensive!

Post by Tech-dance » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:18 pm

Well clearly business must be booming, either that or the powers that be at Steinberg are NOT LISTENING and IN DENIAL!


If this was football I think I can safely say that Steinberg have played an OWN GOAL!

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Re: Groove Agent 5 update too expensive!

Post by Starsprinkler » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:08 pm

Gvanas46 wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:15 pm
I remember the upgrade from GA to GA4 wan't that expensive.
Actually, the GA4 update price was the same as this one... on other hand, that update was a very big one. This update seems to be much smaller. But the price structure is actually the same as before. Logically a smaller update should be cheaper than a bigger one though.

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Post by bigsoundsgood » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:28 pm

Definitely a disproportian between the upgrade price of GA5 and Cubase Pro 10. Why? Because its the same, 99€! And I also would never have upgraded to G5 if Cubase Pro 10 had been released first. Why? Because it includes GA 5 SE, which would be ok for me. For me, this was a calculated move by Steinberg, because they knew this was gonna happen. That's why I really feel like I'm being screwed. I am using Cubase since the Atari times, but this move to get my and the money of others is a shame which I never saw before.
So its not only the huge upgrade fee, but also to release it short before Cubase 10.
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Re: Groove Agent 5 update too expensive!

Post by NoMad92 » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:57 am

bigsoundsgood wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:28 pm
Definitely a disproportian between the upgrade price of GA5 and Cubase Pro 10. Why? Because its the same, 99€! And I also would never have upgraded to G5 if Cubase Pro 10 had been released first. Why? Because it includes GA 5 SE, which would be ok for me. For me, this was a calculated move by Steinberg, because they knew this was gonna happen. That's why I really feel like I'm being screwed. I am using Cubase since the Atari times, but this move to get my and the money of others is a shame which I never saw before.
So its not only the huge upgrade fee, but also to release it short before Cubase 10.
SO TRUE !!!

I'll pass both updates...wait for a cut in price, or well kinda go see what other brands has to offer. (BTW I'm the kinda guy who buys the (cubase) update kinda fast usually...well not this year, I'll keep my money)
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Post by jxm » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:56 pm

I'll buy when its $50
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Re: Groove Agent 5 update too expensive!

Post by coolbass1000 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:49 am

jxm wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:56 pm
I'll buy when its $50
Ok, when it's 49$.
That is a reasonable price for this update!

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Re: Groove Agent 5 update too expensive!

Post by Niles » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:50 am

Apparently Steinberg still doesn't give much about the overall sentiment of customers who supported their product the last years. If they even had a little respect towards its loyal Groove Agent customers, a representative could try to explain the reasoning behind the high upgrade price compared to other Steinberg products.

To Steinberg I can only say: You can hold any survey you want to try to connect with your customers, but as long as you keep treating existing customers with that typical infamous Steinberg arrogance, you will gain little sympathy.

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Post by Tech-dance » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:30 am

I agree. I’ve given in and paid and it really isn’t worth the extra money for what you get over 4

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Post by Quietly » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:37 pm

No incentive such as an upgrade price for Cubase 10 owners with GA SE 5 at all. I was interested and one look at the price was enough to forget it. :o
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Post by WTS » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:31 am

JTRake wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:49 pm
Easy. No buy. Money saved :D

True although in this particular sale of Groove Agent 5 software Steinberg is gouging their customers . And the proof of that is that Steinberg will not even issue a try for 30 days before you buy version of Groove Agent 5 .

@ DEC 2/18 my correction :

Steinberg has released a 30 day try before you buy Groove Agent 5

although for me considering the foreign exchange mark up ( from Canadian $ to US $ )the cost is pricey
however
I suppose that's the price i have to pay for a quality software .

I have been using/paying for Steinberg's software ever since the day their software was issued on 3.5 floppy disks including the authorization 3.5 floppy disks.
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Post by gmontano » Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:40 am

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Post by stripealipe » Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:53 pm

Even if i did wanna upgrade, i can't, as i bought the Absolute Collection so i gotta wait for at least 6 weeks or maybe more according to their Twitter account....

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Re: Groove Agent 5 update too expensive!

Post by NoMad92 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:03 am

stripealipe wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:53 pm
Even if i did wanna upgrade, i can't, as i bought the Absolute Collection so i gotta wait for at least 6 weeks or maybe more according to their Twitter account....
You're not missing anything, unless you want more kits ...
(solo buttons for layers, for example, should be on a free 4 update, not a 99€ one, even the decompose function is not worth 99€ update... so the only thing you'll pay 99 for is new kits...how boring and expensive)
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Re: Groove Agent 5 update too expensive!

Post by spikey » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:15 pm

I cant program like that, and so it was worth the cost to me. That's cheaper than one dinner out and a movie for the family. YMMV as always. :)
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Re: Groove Agent 5 update too expensive!

Post by jimknopf » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:27 pm

What a bunch of funny comments on prices and new functionality.
Perhaps those, who are having a hard time reading about the real differences, can at least watch a short video:
https://youtu.be/bQ7REKNCvf4
I'm enjoying GA5 all the time, while the clueless complaining goes on here :-)
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Re: Groove Agent 5 update too expensive!

Post by NoMad92 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:32 am

jimknopf wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:27 pm
What a bunch of funny comments on prices and new functionality.
Perhaps those, who are having a hard time reading about the real differences, can at least watch a short video:
https://youtu.be/bQ7REKNCvf4
I'm enjoying GA5 all the time, while the clueless complaining goes on here :-)
To each his own melody of life...
more people not happy than happy, so ... avoid calling them "funny" to then conclude with "to each his own melody".
if you're happy to pay 99 for a 4.5 version, and some kits, ok great for you !
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Re: Groove Agent 5 update too expensive!

Post by Niles » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:05 pm

NoMad92 wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:32 am
more people not happy than happy, so ... avoid calling them "funny" to then conclude with "to each his own melody".
if you're happy to pay 99 for a 4.5 version, and some kits, ok great for you !
Exactly! And the creator of the video thinks the same about it.

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Re: Groove Agent 5 update too expensive!

Post by Tech-dance » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:48 pm

jimknopf wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:27 pm
What a bunch of funny comments on prices and new functionality.
Perhaps those, who are having a hard time reading about the real differences, can at least watch a short video:
https://youtu.be/bQ7REKNCvf4
I'm enjoying GA5 all the time, while the clueless complaining goes on here :-)
To each his own melody of life...
So...

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Re: Groove Agent 5 update too expensive!

Post by jimknopf » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:08 pm

So ... I simply can make very good use of what's on offer, and obviously wasn't forced to buy anything otherwise.

If someone doesn't want and need that, fine.
I just feel slightly amused by the dramatic complaint level, in part not even showing a clue what's really in the update.

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Re: Groove Agent 5 update too expensive!

Post by spikey » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:00 am

Whats a bit humorous to me is kinda like going to the ER and trying to negotiate the Doctor fees thereby claiming they charge too much (which they do of course, but you nor I is changing that either). :lol:
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Re: Groove Agent 5 update too expensive!

Post by Niles » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:17 am

spikey wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:00 am
Whats a bit humorous to me is kinda like going to the ER and trying to negotiate the Doctor fees thereby claiming they charge too much (which they do of course, but you nor I is changing that either). :lol:
That is the best analogy you can come up with? Comparing emergency room costs with a plugin update. Really? :roll:
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I cant program like that, and so it was worth the cost to me.
Not surprising. :lol:

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Re: Groove Agent 5 update too expensive!

Post by coolbass1000 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:30 pm

Well, it is simple really.
For a new license for GA5 the ask 179€. I have no problem with this.

For the upgrade from GA4 they ask 99,99€.

This is an insane price setting. The upgrade price is too high.
I will not buy this upgrade at this price.

And I think a lot of people agree with me.

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Post by James K » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:30 pm

I skipped the update. Perhaps when it goes on sale next year. Maybe.
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Post by polynasia » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:10 pm

I skipped too, way too pricey.
I like new features but do not need the content which is included trying to justify the price.

Steinberg tries to push into new segments - they can do so, but obviously they should do it without making their existing and pay-willing customers angry.
Sad.

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Post by Naturligasteg » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:30 pm

I like the live sampling and resizeable windowsize in the version 5, but it is not worth 99 for me. So I will skip this one or wait until it is on sale for like 30ish.

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