[BUG] N8.3 to Tango communication messed up.

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[BUG] N8.3 to Tango communication messed up.

Post by fenderchris » Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:14 pm

My Tangos work well with Nuendo 7.1.40. One of the many great features is that when an Insert is selected on a channel on the Tango it automatically assigns all of the parameters to the knobs on the Tango and gives them all the correct names - it works beautifully.

The Tango has always worked perfectly in this respect with all Nuendo versions up to and including N7.1.40, but it has gone completely wild in N8.3.

Nothing has changed in the Tango software of course, but Nuendo does not appear to be sending or receiving the correct data any more.

In the main (but not always), if there are let's say 4 Insert plugins on a selected channel - Pultec, Fairchild, Harrison and Mono Delay, to control the Fairchild I have to select the Pultec, to control the Harrison I select Fairchild, to control the Mono Delay I have to select the Harrison. The first plugin in the Insert list on a track seems to work correctly, but the rest are completely screwed.

Could this be linked to the work done one the DLL/VST instance limitation issue for N8?

I've tried removing/re-installing all of the Tango devices in N8.3 to no avail.

N7.1.40 works perfectly - N8.3 does not.

I am currently trying to roll back to N8.2.1 to see if the problem is also there, but I can not manage to do that. I must be doing something wrong.

The Tango (1) itself is a fantastic, still popular, product which I do not intend to stop using due to an SB bug; but my funding of Steinberg has to stop until the problem is solved.
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Re: [BUG] N8.3 to Tango communication messed up.

Post by Blueman » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:50 pm

I can confirm the same here with 8.3 and Tango 1. Incredibly frustrating!

Did you report to Steinberg/Nuendo Support?
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Re: [BUG] N8.3 to Tango communication messed up.

Post by fenderchris » Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:37 pm

Blueman wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:50 pm
I can confirm the same here with 8.3 and Tango 1. Incredibly frustrating!

Did you report to Steinberg/Nuendo Support?
I've PM'd Timo and asked if he could get someone to look into it, but I will try contacting Nuendo Support as well.

Thanks for confirming this.
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Screens: LG 4K 3440x1440, AG-Neovo 1280x1024 (x2).

Hardware: RME FireFace UFX, MR816CSX (x2), SmartAV Tango-1 + 12-fader expansion, MOTU Midi Express 128, UAD-2 Quad, Lexicon PCM-91, Lexicon MPX-550, TC-Fireworx, Roland V-Drums TD-20X, Nektar Panorama P1.

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Re: [BUG] N8.3 to Tango communication messed up.

Post by fenderchris » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:45 pm

The good people at Steinberg have acknowledged this as a bug and are looking in to it.

Don't dump your Tangos yet! :-)
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Software: Nuendo-8.1.10, Nuendo-10.2, Wavelab-Elements-9.5, Halion-6, Halion Sonic 3, Kontakt-5, Cubase iCPro for iPhone and Android (killed by its parents at birth), Omnisphere, Trillian.

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Re: [BUG] N8.3 to Tango communication messed up.

Post by cyrileg » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:23 pm

You know it Fenderchris.
I remain attentive on this question.
Tell us if you have any other comments from Steinberg on this problem.
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Re: [BUG] N8.3 to Tango communication messed up.

Post by Dog and Pony » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:06 pm

Thanks for posting!
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Re: [BUG] N8.3 to Tango communication messed up.

Post by fenderchris » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:06 pm

Just installed N8.3.10 but unfortunately it does not resolve this bug.

This leaves me still stuck on N7.1.40, unable to move forward to use the N8.3 update I bought.

Essentially, I am now an EX-Steinberg customer until such time that the bug is fixed.
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The Archers - give it a rest already!

Windows-10 Pro 64-bit v.1903.

PC: i7 Quad core 2.66GHz, 24GB ram, SSD drives.

Screens: LG 4K 3440x1440, AG-Neovo 1280x1024 (x2).

Hardware: RME FireFace UFX, MR816CSX (x2), SmartAV Tango-1 + 12-fader expansion, MOTU Midi Express 128, UAD-2 Quad, Lexicon PCM-91, Lexicon MPX-550, TC-Fireworx, Roland V-Drums TD-20X, Nektar Panorama P1.

Software: Nuendo-8.1.10, Nuendo-10.2, Wavelab-Elements-9.5, Halion-6, Halion Sonic 3, Kontakt-5, Cubase iCPro for iPhone and Android (killed by its parents at birth), Omnisphere, Trillian.

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