Convincing mixing/mastering of virtual symphonic orchestra

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Convincing mixing/mastering of virtual symphonic orchestra

Post by creartistic » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:02 pm

I know those questions come around fairly often, but technology changes and so does the way real recordings sound. The question is: Which effects do I have to apply to create a convincing, contemporary film music-like sound with a sample-based production?

Those are the things I already discovered:
* The composition itself has to be musically valid.
* Choosing the right articulations is important.
* Panning left-right according to orchestra setup is also important.
* Dry-Wet-Ratio according to front-behind-position helps a lot.

BUT... despite using Vienna Symphonic Library samples and a SIR2 convolution reverb, I don't get the SOUND. Particulary there's a lack of bass. When I listen to soundtracks, there's always a broad, powerful bass. And when I mix in some Omnisphere Bass Pad (without any changes apart from that), it literally blows me off. My VSL double-bass section however sounds like they're hidden in the right corner having a snack.

This makes me wonder:
* Should I use limiter/compressor with symphonic mixes? Normally I wouldn't, but maybe it adds the punch I'm looking for.
* What and how is EQ best applied? I've read that EQ-ing is sometimes a valid means to achieve a good sound. I've never used it with symphonic mixes, though.

Any advice is most welcome. Thanks in advance!

Equipment (most time):
* VSL Vienna Instruments, Vienna Ensemble, EWQL, Omnisphere
* Windows 8, Cubase 7.5
* SIR2 with included set of impulse reverbs

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Re: Convincing mixing/mastering of virtual symphonic orchest

Post by NathanBros » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:32 pm

I would try I mastering suite like Izotope, find a preset that give some good results and check under the internal settings to see whats going on in EQ/compression of individual bands, like the mid/bass sections you've mentioned.
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Re: Convincing mixing/mastering of virtual symphonic orchest

Post by creartistic » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:38 pm

Sounds great, thanks! Can you recommend a particular plug-in? Izotope features various products, some of them bundles and, em, rather expensive.

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Re: Convincing mixing/mastering of virtual symphonic orchest

Post by creartistic » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:44 pm

btw: I uploaded some of my compositions on Soundcloud, if anyone would like to take a listen:
https://soundcloud.com/creartistic/escape

I'd assume professional ears around here be able to tell what's needed by merely listening in for a few seconds. Or maybe everything's fine, but I tend to think there's still much to do on the production end of things. Thanks in advance!

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