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Post by Tumppi Järnefelt » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:30 pm

audiomonkeys wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:55 pm
they are but with this app of Neyrinck you can also use Nuendo and Logic. Read the article on the link for more info
https://neyrinck.com/v-control-pro/
Hmmm. Interesting. But I would not trust my studio on discontinued products. What happens when a fader breaks?
Something fundamental changes in your daw and bum your controller does not work anymore?

Interresting, even tempting. But no thanks I’d say!,,
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Post by miguelnunes » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:17 pm

I felt the URGENCY to get back on this topic ASAP.
The amount of misinformation on the subject : " do I need an Hardware Controller? " is astonishing!
First and foremost: do you make a living out of composing, mixing, or mastering music?
If that's the case, you DONT need any type of Hardware Touch Sensitive faders to get your job done.
NOW! Do you have a Post job? are you mixing 20' ; 25' ; 40' ; 45' ; 50' ...and over an hour of Films, Docs, whatever sound for film you need to do and you're on a DEADLINE?!
YES! There is no way you can accomplish that without some type of controller.
Having said that, and on a totally different subject, this one is for FREDO:

- Ive spoke with Avid, they told me that the Eucon ( although it is a closed sku right now) is available for Steinberg to do their job.
I don't know what to believe right now... ( but hey! even Logic has better support of Eucon than Steinberg, isn't Eucon closed?!)
- Why is "transparent Mode" gone in Nuendo 10.1 without a warning?
- Why is the right click event menu decimated on Nuendo 10.1?
- Why can't I save color prefs "decently" on an "established daw"?!
- Oh! believe me , I could go on forever...

Let me tell you something Steinberg: you guys keep on adding fancy Sh#t but retracting features that made Nuendo the ultimate Pro Tools Killer.
And let me tell you another thing FREDO: Either you guys get out of that LAZY zone trying to sum up Cubase with Nuendo, or the decline of Post guys using Nuendo will hit you hard.

Yup, this was a Rant FREDO...Get your *flower* together Steinberg, Im not a new member, I was there in Nuendo 2 with the RME package.

For all of you Post guys, the S3 is a great Tool, as is the Dock with an iPad, and...sorry for the Rant!

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Post by MattiasNYC » Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:52 am

Well, as far as I can see when it comes to Eucon it's actually pretty straight forward. There aren't that many possibilities we're looking at.

- Either Avid leaves the Eucon protocol alone for the most part and isn't deliberately screwing around with it to trip up third parties. I think it's more likely that they're leaving it alone for the most part for two reasons;

a) if they didn't I'd be forced to update my Eucon device drivers etc when I update Pro Tools, and that isn't the case, and
b) if they deliberately try to break compatibility they'll sell fewer devices, which means less money for Avid...


- Or Steinberg simply hasn't implemented all that Eucon has to offer for one reason or another. It could be;

a) lack of resources
b) different priorities
c) lack of competence

My guess is that Steinberg isn't fully motivated to adapt Cubendo 'more' to cover more of what Eucon allows for. It really seems to me to be the only thing that makes sense.

PS: I'm assuming that Eucon support on Nuendo is simply not as it should be as per the reviews by other people..
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Re: Control Surface for Nuendo

Post by ErikG » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:09 am

Why am I up at this un-godly hour? Dog woke me up, puking, now he is sleeping and I am not...

Yes eucon implementation in Nuendo is a bit behind now.
With S6 I think that there is quite a few features that are not supported (clip names on meters as an example). But I don’t have a S6.
With my old S5MC I have to use static layouts and eucon won’t show what the Nuendo mixers can show. So visibility and channel agents is not usable in a eucon workflow which is a pity as it is a strong part of what makes Nuage great.
However I guess with the current eucon implementation of updating all tracks as tracks are added or removed over eucon would make this terribly clunky.
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Re: Control Surface for Nuendo

Post by Keyplayer » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:13 am

audiomonkeys wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:55 pm
they are but with this app of Neyrinck you can also use Nuendo and Logic. Read the article on the link for more info
https://neyrinck.com/v-control-pro/
Same question. Will the hardware follow the software with this app?
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Post by JezCorbett » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:43 pm

Steinberg constantly blamed Avid for issues with OMF / AAF files back in the day, despite the fact they worked just fine in most other DAWs.

I just don't believe them.
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Post by Oliver.Lucas » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:44 am

I think the point about a small market is not valid.
People sell boutique gear all over the industry from custom shop guitars to preamps and microphones.
I don‘t see the sales problem for a smaller but high quality fader unit if it has proper DAW integration.
Maybe the new smaller AVID surfaces are just that. I have not touched one and as S3 and PT user I have no need.
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Re: Control Surface for Nuendo

Post by Dietz » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:16 am

Isn't Softube's new Console 1 Fader in the scope of this thread, too? No one mentioned it, AFAICS. Seems to be a clever little box.
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Post by Fredo » Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:13 pm

miguelnunes wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:17 pm
this one is for FREDO:

- Ive spoke with Avid, they told me that the Eucon ( although it is a closed sku right now) is available for Steinberg to do their job.
I don't know what to believe right now... ( but hey! even Logic has better support of Eucon than Steinberg, isn't Eucon closed?!)
You didn't read my post correctly.
I repeat:

1. Eucon was originally designed & created by Steinberg. (In collaboration with Euphonix)
2. When Avid bought Euphonix they "closed down" the Eucon protocol, so they are the only ones who can use Eucon in their hardware.
3. 3th Party developers can use Eucon for their DAW's & other software applications, but they are now depending on Avid for a lot of things.

So when Avid implements new features within the hardware part of Eucon, the SKU for the software is not updated beforehand. It is released with the release of their hardware. Just like when Apple gear updates their OS, all the software developers are in the dark about what is still gonna work and/or what needs to be changed for making it work.
Which means that all third parties are running behind per definition.

Can the Steinberg Eucon software updates be better and faster?
Probably. It all comes down to priorities & resources.

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Re: Control Surface for Nuendo

Post by Oliver.Lucas » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:05 pm

Fredo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:13 pm
....
Can the Steinberg Eucon software updates be better and faster?
Probably. It all comes down to priorities & resources.

Fredo
Well that's one thing we can agree on for a change ;)

The endless iterations of the blame game and the willinglessness of Steinberg to address problems in their EuCon implementation (do I hear somebody say "hide" or "ipad app channel view"?) as well as refusing to build a small form factor high quality controllers were parts of my rising frustration with Nuendo.
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Re: Control Surface for Nuendo

Post by MattiasNYC » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:43 pm

Oliver.Lucas wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:44 am
I think the point about a small market is not valid.
People sell boutique gear all over the industry from custom shop guitars to preamps and microphones.
Yes, but from that perspective Nuage is boutique, and for potential customers it suffers from exactly the same thing as other items which is a high price. Almost every time this discussion come up on Gearslutz people will inevitably say certain things:

1. "It's ridiculous that X doesn't exist!!!" (all caps probably)
2. Me: Posts photos of Nuage, s4, s6, Fairlight
3. Them again: "You're an idiot for posting things that cost that much!!!"
4. Me: "Ok, so you should have defined your complaint a bit more narrowly then: Things are too expensive, it's not that they don't exist."

And then I'm an a-hole for pointing that out.

But anyway, I think having a small market is a valid explanation for why we're not seeing more of this stuff. I mean, hopefully someone will come back and give us what we want, I'm just "moderately optimistic" about it..
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Re: Control Surface for Nuendo

Post by MattiasNYC » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:43 pm

Dietz wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:16 am
Isn't Softube's new Console 1 Fader in the scope of this thread, too? No one mentioned it, AFAICS. Seems to be a clever little box.
Not sure about how it integrates, and the lack of screens showing channel names is a no-go for me.
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Re: Control Surface for Nuendo

Post by Fredo » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:55 pm

MattiasNYC wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:43 pm
[Me: "Ok, so you should have defined your complaint a bit more narrowly then: Things are too expensive, it's not that they don't exist."
Your nailed it. Drinks are on me.


It's not about what is available, it's about what users want (or don't want) to pay for it.
There is a reason why things are expensive, as you say, limited marked.
I understand why some users can't afford certain things, but still want to have.


I can only say that our Nuage systems gave our company a 20% productivity boost.
If you can make money out off a 20% efficiency boost, then it is a good investment.
If it's an investment "for your own pleasure", then it is expensive.
So the price is not the determing factor, it's the return on investment.


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Post by Getalife2 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:35 pm

When you're making a boutique guitar you need some wood, some simple tools and one human being who knows what they are doing.

When you intend to mass-produce a highly technical box of electronics with servo-driven moving parts that must adapt to multiple layers of hardware and software created by companies you have no control over, and who are constantly making changes to the capability of that software as a part of staying in business, it is a most different endeavor.

Boutique guitars and plug-ins do not involve 10% of what's required to create a DAW controller. And if either of those don't work out well all you really risked was some programming time or a nice looking piece of wood.

I believe that explains much of what this thread is debating. Behringer makes really cheap controllers with moving faders. Get one! Or if you want something sophisticated,, pony up the money

To me this entire thread sounds like somebody saying they just want a good car for a fair price. Great get a Toyota Corolla or equivalent. No I don't want that what I really want is an extremely nice Lexus or BMW but I want it for the price of the Corolla.

Best of luck on that.
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Post by cyrileg » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:48 pm

Personally I have a NUAGE when I work at home because I am a professional in post.
My colleagues told me "you're crazy it's too expensive".
Yes, it's true. But it's my everyday work tool. This is not my hobby

When I'm a sound recordist, I use a Sound Devices and not a Zoom. Why? Because it's my professional tool and I trust in Sound Devices. When I record a voice, I don't use a SM58 but a Neumann ...

Each tool according to a need or a function.

- I totally agree with Fredo; this saves me about 20% of time compared to an ARTIST system (I earn about 1 day every 4 days) and for a producer, I have an advantage over others

there is no equivalent in terms of integration with Nuendo.
All other systems running with Nuendo are just handyman tools.

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Re: Control Surface for Nuendo

Post by Oliver.Lucas » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:39 pm

For me Nuage is too big.

I love the idea of having a computer keyboard and mouse, small midi keys and moving faders all within the reach of my hands. When I bought our first WK Id I had Lothar deliver a system that had room for a normal wooden table in the middle. (cut in 2 parts)
I personally think that large consoles are more of a hinderance for my workflow than helping me to get things done. (then again I do not do theatrical mixes in large teams where they might help a lot I admit)
I went with the S3 because it was the only option in the smaller form factor that does not have an entirely crappy feel to it although I would have loved to have an option to pay more for better faders.
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Re: Control Surface for Nuendo

Post by Keyplayer » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:50 pm

Oliver.Lucas wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:39 pm
For me Nuage is too big.

I love the idea of having a computer keyboard and mouse, small midi keys and moving faders all within the reach of my hands. When I bought our first WK Id I had Lothar deliver a system that had room for a normal wooden table in the middle. (cut in 2 parts)
I personally think that large consoles are more of a hinderance for my workflow than helping me to get things done. (then again I do not do theatrical mixes in large teams where they might help a lot I admit)
I went with the S3 because it was the only option in the smaller form factor that does not have an entirely crappy feel to it although I would have loved to have an option to pay more for better faders.
The size is a problem for me as well. But the bigger irritant about the fader module is that there is no visible feedback, save the track color bar! :o
Nuage 05b_16 Ch. Fader Module (Close Up).jpg
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You HAVE TO HAVE A MONITOR to know what the module is doing. Now Avid is doing the same thing with the S1, which is ridiculous! It's like buying a car with the all of the windows blacked out! At least with the Artist Series you had a small window over each fader telling you what channel you were on an the status of that channel. I was really surprised when I realized this omission on the Nuage fader module.

I think Fairlight nailed it when they made Xynergi. It's what the S3 SHOULD have been, modular, well built and professional! You could scale that system all the way up to a large format console. But if you had a small shop with a small space, you could buy just the master module with a couple of fader modules (or none) and have all of the function of the full console!
XYNERGI Controller with 12 Faders 00.jpg
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I would love to have been able to purchase this setup for use with Nuendo. But, of course, with all the tribalism involved with the market, this wasn't possible and now, with the Black Magic Design takeover, even their hardware is unreliably diminished! :(
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Post by cyrileg » Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:12 pm

Indeed, a screen 23 'or 24' is essential for the fader module. It was my doubt at first.
But finally it does not bother me because I already worked with 3 screens: one for the timeline, one for the console and one for Edits, Mediabay and plugs. The image comes out on a TV by a black magic card.
I lost 10cm in height because of the height of the console compared to the AVID. So I bought a desk adjustable in height. My tweeters are at the same height as my ears.

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Post by MattiasNYC » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:08 pm

Keyplayer wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:50 pm
The size is a problem for me as well. But the bigger irritant about the fader module is that there is no visible feedback, save the track color bar! :o
Nuage 05b_16 Ch. Fader Module (Close Up).jpg
You HAVE TO HAVE A MONITOR to know what the module is doing.
I never looked at it that way as they always seemed to market it as the bottom half + a screen you would buy yourself. I do see your point though of course.
Keyplayer wrote:
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Now Avid is doing the same thing with the S1, which is ridiculous!
Actually the s1 has screens for track names etc.

Image

The one thing I'd change about it is that 'lip' in which you rest the tablet. I'd probably either make it so it could change angle or be detachable. But at any rate it's a clear upgrade from the Artist Mix as far as I can see.
Keyplayer wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:50 pm
I think Fairlight nailed it when they made Xynergi. It's what the S3 SHOULD have been, modular, well built and professional! You could scale that system all the way up to a large format console. But if you had a small shop with a small space, you could buy just the master module with a couple of fader modules (or none) and have all of the function of the full console!
XYNERGI Controller with 12 Faders 00.jpg
XYNERGI Controller with 12 Faders 03_Close-up View.jpg

I would love to have been able to purchase this setup for use with Nuendo. But, of course, with all the tribalism involved with the market, this wasn't possible and now, with the Black Magic Design takeover, even their hardware is unreliably diminished! :(
Yeah, I think BMD controllers are aimed squarely at their own ecosystem, and probably for good reason to be honest. They'd possibly be stretching themselves a bit thin supporting a big device like that on more than one platform.

As for Avid the s4/s6 are modular though, at least to some degree, just like the s1. So sure, we're living with Eucon at that point but the upside is the scalability, size, design, and deep integration with PT should we want it (which also presumably affect resell value).
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Post by Oliver.Lucas » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:24 pm

Keyplayer wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:50 pm
Oliver.Lucas wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:39 pm
For me Nuage is too big.

I love the idea of having a computer keyboard and mouse, small midi keys and moving faders all within the reach of my hands. When I bought our first WK Id I had Lothar deliver a system that had room for a normal wooden table in the middle. (cut in 2 parts)
I personally think that large consoles are more of a hinderance for my workflow than helping me to get things done. (then again I do not do theatrical mixes in large teams where they might help a lot I admit)
I went with the S3 because it was the only option in the smaller form factor that does not have an entirely crappy feel to it although I would have loved to have an option to pay more for better faders.
The size is a problem for me as well. But the bigger irritant about the fader module is that there is no visible feedback, save the track color bar! :o
Nuage 05b_16 Ch. Fader Module (Close Up).jpg
You HAVE TO HAVE A MONITOR to know what the module is doing. Now Avid is doing the same thing with the S1, which is ridiculous! It's like buying a car with the all of the windows blacked out! At least with the Artist Series you had a small window over each fader telling you what channel you were on an the status of that channel. I was really surprised when I realized this omission on the Nuage fader module.

I think Fairlight nailed it when they made Xynergi. It's what the S3 SHOULD have been, modular, well built and professional! You could scale that system all the way up to a large format console. But if you had a small shop with a small space, you could buy just the master module with a couple of fader modules (or none) and have all of the function of the full console!
XYNERGI Controller with 12 Faders 00.jpg
XYNERGI Controller with 12 Faders 03_Close-up View.jpg

I would love to have been able to purchase this setup for use with Nuendo. But, of course, with all the tribalism involved with the market, this wasn't possible and now, with the Black Magic Design takeover, even their hardware is unreliably diminished! :(
I feel exactly the same way. Xinergi is outstanding. Very unfortunate that it does not speak EuCon.
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Post by Keyplayer » Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:35 pm

MattiasNYC wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:08 pm
Yeah, I think BMD controllers are aimed squarely at their own ecosystem, and probably for good reason to be honest. They'd possibly be stretching themselves a bit thin supporting a big device like that on more than one platform.
Actually, the hardware is no longer "all that!" Since BMD took over, their blending of their software with the Fairlight hardware has been like ramming a square peg into a round hole. I was totally ready to "jump ship" altogether. I HATE Avid and their constantly killing innovation by their competitors! :x
Euphonix was brilliant with Eucon, it was totally inclusive. Avid killed it by making it PT centric, in their never ending quest to force everyone else into the PT paradigm! Tango was great, same as Eucon, totally inclusive. Avid killed them. They wouldn't share Eucon and drove them out of business!

So, Fairlight looked like the way to go. It had all the audio and all the video and you could drop in any file from anyone into their environment. The only place they felt short was in MIDI features. So I was all set to take the plunge. BMD bought them and it became a total nightmare just to get info on the hardware. I had a friend who worked for a Fairlight Post facility as Chief Engineer. He said all of their hardware was going nuts trying to function with the BMD updates. All of their DREAM and Xynergi units were dropping features, JUST LIKE ALL NON PT EUCON DAWS!!! :x :x :x

So, that was the end of that. He says they MIGHT have it figured out by the end of the 1st quarter 2020. :cry: Meanwhile, I'm stuck with AVid. It'slike trying to get paroled!
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Re: Control Surface for Nuendo

Post by MattiasNYC » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:29 am

I hear you.

I think if we want to not commit fully then this is just the way things are and we'll just have to deal with things not being perfect.

If we on the other hand want to commit to a DAW and its "eco system" then both Pro Tools and Nuendo provides excellent products. I think Nuendo is better and I think it's a better value, but both are very good. So I really don't think it makes much sense to lament the current poor performance of Fairlight controllers because once you're at that price range you might as well look at either Avid or Steinberg instead, and just go all in with s1/4/6 or Nuage.

For what it's worth I find Fairlight software to be pretty clunky and the BMD people aren't really doing that great of a job promoting it or teaching it to people that aren't from the audio side of post. I can imagine that their controllers will actually help get beyond some of that clunky stuff but it's still not really sitting that well with me.
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Re: Control Surface for Nuendo

Post by Keyplayer » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:01 am

MattiasNYC wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:29 am
I hear you.

I think if we want to not commit fully then this is just the way things are and we'll just have to deal with things not being perfect.

If we on the other hand want to commit to a DAW and its "eco system" then both Pro Tools and Nuendo provides excellent products. I think Nuendo is better and I think it's a better value, but both are very good. So I really don't think it makes much sense to lament the current poor performance of Fairlight controllers because once you're at that price range you might as well look at either Avid or Steinberg instead, and just go all in with s1/4/6 or Nuage.
Oh it would definitely be Nuage! I grew up on Nuendo. So, my choice is made. I won't have any choice but to go to Nuage. But then I still need to find something for the video side of the equation.

That's WHY I was looking at Fairlight/BMD. I could've gone with an S3/Dock rigg. But Avid won't make it modular, to allow 2 units wtih a Dock for a 33 fader setup. According to Avid, it was "too complicated" to do and they had other bugs that were more important to fix. Funny, they didn't have any problem with Artist Series and they don't have any problem making S1's linkable. So the story is obviously BS.

If people can do 33 faders on an S3/Dock for $12K (List!), they won't entertain spending $100K for an S6! So now they've come up with an S4, which maxes out at 24 faders at $50k+. That still won't beat the $12K Double S3/Dock combo. So, S3 will never become linkable. THIS (along with a "Comcast" type reputation for product support and leaving product lines in a heartbeat) is exactly why I don't like dealing with Avid. So Nuage is THE ONLY CHOICE.

I'm watching all the online places for a good deal on a used system. Even then, it's very large for the space I've got AND I'll still be looking for something to control Vegas 16. This is frustrating as hell. Ironically, if they'd JUST FIX THE HARDWARE MIRRORING THE DAW ISSUE, almost none of us would be bothered enough by the other things to even care.
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Re: Control Surface for Nuendo

Post by Splaaat » Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:18 pm

Update:

So, I ended up purchasing the Avid S3 and so far I'm loving the workflow! Still getting used to the interface and shortcuts, but had a chance to mix a small orchestral track today. I tried to use only the controller with no mouse and keyboard and must say I was impressed with the Eucon + Nuendo integration. It runs a lot deeper than I expected it to.

The top row lets me control almost everything I could think of while mixing Sends, Routing, Plugin Parameters, Nuendo's EQ and Channelstrip. I even tested it out with Instrument tracks and controlling and automating synth parameters and it worked well. The layouts feature is going to be awesome for mixing large sessions.

I suppose VCA spill doesn't work with Nuendo and I also couldn't get multi-track selection working. I use Q-link a lot while mixing, so it would be great to be able to select multiple tracks and adjust levels or drop plugins instead of using VCA's.

The list of Eucon configurable Nuendo functions available for the Softkeys is quite impressive as well.

I'll post a few updates soon.
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Re: Control Surface for Nuendo

Post by Dolfo » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:16 pm

I'd like to share my opinion about it. Nuage or Avid S family seems to me very expensive devices in order they offer control over software. I use since years a Yamaha DM2000. It cost was around same as current Nuage system, but it's a great digital console as well a DAW controller. Its DAW control is deep with Nuendo, and you can do almost things like Nuage. I don't want to compare them, but DM2000 offers much more than Nuage when it was released, and now you can use it too very smartly. So one option is to get one of these second hand consoles with cost around 3000€ and use as DAW controller. I use too a Shuttle Control Pro2 and a MC Transport. An iPad with duet software permits me to control de channel view with the touch screen too. So, Am I pretty near to get the control of a Nuage? I don't think, but the performance I get with this setup is very good to me. Since Nuage is too expensive, I think I'll continuo with my setup until a true new controller is released in a reasonable price.
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