Jog Shuttle Control for Nuendo?

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Re: Jog Shuttle Control for Nuendo?

Post by MattiasNYC » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:27 pm

Fredo wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:38 am
they are to f%$*** lazy and/or incompetent to solve the problem.

Fredo
lol.. "But how do you really feel about them?"..

Long week?
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Re: Jog Shuttle Control for Nuendo?

Post by Fredo » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:11 pm

MattiasNYC wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:27 pm
Long week?
No, I'm fine. :)

Just to give you an example.
Got this through email from their support team:

Once again, thank you for your feedback. While working on the Nuage Panner firmware for an unrelated matter, we remembered your comments and considered how to improve the situation. [..] We have released a new version of the Nuendo firmware that now allows the Constrain buttons to latch. "To enable the latching of the Constrain buttons, simply hold the Null button on the unit during power up."

Now, just for fun, just before you go for your first Friday-evening beer, spot the Mains button on the unit.
https://jlcooper.com/_php/product.php?prod=nuage
The On/Of button is to be found on the right photo (Rear view)
Then take a good look at the Photo right below. (Nuendo Panner in Expansion Chassis)
And the one bottom left (Nuage Panner installed in Nuage Console)

Now ... read their answer one more time.
And look at the photo's one more time.
This should keep you going on Beers for the rest of the evening.

Fredo

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Re: Jog Shuttle Control for Nuendo?

Post by MattiasNYC » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:21 pm

lol.. Yeah.. I guess if you have one power strip outside of the chassis you could hypothetically get it done, but it doesn't strike me as a particularly good solution. And I trust you 100% that it isn't a good solution.

Anyway, just thought your not that filtered response was funny.
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Re: Jog Shuttle Control for Nuendo?

Post by PeterGx » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:13 am

Here is my shot on jog wheels. Coming from Akai 1500, I was looking for a jog for Nuendo from the very beginning.

JL Cooper controllers are very well built (all metal) but almost unusable.
I had MCS3800 and MCS3 with 9pin and USB cards but could not find any good use for them.
Many years ago I was talking to them on NAB and they simply did not understand the problem. It looks the company is coming from a traditional video market, but even their 9pin MCS 3 didn't work properly with Sony Beta videorecorder.

Contour Shuttle has low resolution, just about 10 steps per rotation, with detents, which is no good.
I replaced the Shuttle cheapo plastic combo encoder (the same you find on VHS video recorders) with hi end Bourns industrial encoder with 100 steps per rotation.
It did cost me as much as the Shuttle itself. I screw on it the big heavy alluminium wheel from the MCS3, and it worked surprisingly well, emulating many editing functions you get in Nuage. It would spin for many seconds. But since the cursor travel speed was constant at 100 frames per rotation, it was only useful at certain ranges of zoom level. You would not want to travel across a film reel with it.

Griffin PowerMate is a good looking aluminium jog wheel only, with 24 frames per rotation, no detents.
It spins quite nicely and is usefull for editing in Nuendo. Not in production anymore, now they have a new Blu Tooth version which I did not test.

Absolutely the best jog wheel I have ever tried is on Sadie Controller. Smooth as butter, heavy wheel, speed is in screen pixels per rotation as it should be. Nuage is of course also fine, but why Yamaha doesn't make a small baby Nuage, something like Sadie?

http://www.sadie.com/products/hwc/master.php

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Re: Jog Shuttle Control for Nuendo?

Post by Dolfo » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:26 pm

I don't understand why nobody talks about MC Transport from Euphonix or later AVID. I know is not in market now, but it works very smoothly. Maybe AVID Pro Tools Dock has same wheel. It's heavy, well constructed and with high inertia.

https://www.avid.com/products/pro-tools-dock
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Re: Jog Shuttle Control for Nuendo?

Post by JezCorbett » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:58 am

Dolfo wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:26 pm
I don't understand why nobody talks about MC Transport from Euphonix or later AVID. I know is not in market now, but it works very smoothly. Maybe AVID Pro Tools Dock has same wheel. It's heavy, well constructed and with high inertia.

https://www.avid.com/products/pro-tools-dock
I mean, you did? In the first reply in this thread?
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Re: Jog Shuttle Control for Nuendo?

Post by Dolfo » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:42 pm

JezCorbett wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:58 am
Dolfo wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:26 pm
I don't understand why nobody talks about MC Transport from Euphonix or later AVID. I know is not in market now, but it works very smoothly. Maybe AVID Pro Tools Dock has same wheel. It's heavy, well constructed and with high inertia.

https://www.avid.com/products/pro-tools-dock
I mean, you did? In the first reply in this thread?
Oh, thanks for remind me.

I mean that if anyone uses Pro Tools Dock it would be nice to know his experience. I'm very happy with MC Trasnport but I wonder if a change to Pro Tools Dock would be fine.
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Re: Jog Shuttle Control for Nuendo?

Post by PeterGx » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:19 am

JezCorbett wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:46 pm

Couldn't find any up to date info from a google around. I assume there must be plenty of Nuendo users using some kind of jog shuttle controller, so I might ask what you use and how well it works. Does the Contour Shuttle work natively now or is it still mapping keyboard shortcuts?
You can see Griffin Power Mate jog function in the video below.
I made it to show smooth operation of DNxHD video inside Nuendo 8 (and associated problems with audio), but you can see basic jog navigation, 24 frames per rotation, starting at about 1:10.
As you can see the operation is smooth, nothing like you experienced with Shuttle Pro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txOgSld74yk&t=73s

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Re: Jog Shuttle Control for Nuendo?

Post by MattiasNYC » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:19 pm

Looks nice Peter. Just for the sake of eliminating issues: Did you ever try the Shuttle with DNxHD?
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Re: Jog Shuttle Control for Nuendo?

Post by PeterGx » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:51 pm

MattiasNYC wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:19 pm
Looks nice Peter. Just for the sake of eliminating issues: Did you ever try the Shuttle with DNxHD?
Sorry no, I usually convert everything to pro res.
This video was recorded because several testers were complaining about DNxHD not working smoothly in Nuendo 8.

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Re: Jog Shuttle Control for Nuendo?

Post by JezCorbett » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:12 am

Just realised I never updated this.

I got an Aspiron D400T in the end.

The jog shuttle is ... ok. Bit clunky and weird with Nuendo.
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