BUG: Cubase 9/9.5 Pre-filter Lowpass automation not working/dissapearing(No Steinberg Support answer for 30 days )

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BUG: Cubase 9/9.5 Pre-filter Lowpass automation not working/dissapearing(No Steinberg Support answer for 30 days )

Post by Janko Kezar » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:46 pm

Id like to report 2 problems with Cubases perfilter section in the mixer/editor(Present in 9 and 9.5):

I. Lowpass filter automation does not start working until you touch/move the lowpass knob in the channel editor :

1. Set an automation track for lowpass in the arange
2. Insert a few points
3. Automation doesnt start working until you open track editor and move/touch the lowpass knob with your mouse- it can be seen when the knob changes color to green=active

As an addition to the lowcut automation problem the issue is most evident on Group tracks where automation doesnt work if track editor isnt visible.As soon as i close the editor automation stops functioning.
This issue is present on all tracks (audio,instrument and group) but its most evident on group tracks.
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II. Pregain automation dissappears when moving a point to infinite value:

1.Set up pregain automation in the arrange
2.Drag a envelope point to infinite value and the whole envelope dissapears visually

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Ive reported this issue in MySteinberg as a ticket about a month ago but havent received any answer from Steinberg support .Steinberg should really improve their Support ticket answering :evil: (This is the second time a ticket took that longm in v9 timeline)

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Re: BUG: Cubase 9/9.5 Pre-filter Lowpass automation not working/dissapearing(No Steinberg Support answer for 30 days )

Post by gnickmusic » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:00 pm

Try calling Yamaha office Steinberg support

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Post by nsharpstudios » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:05 pm

I have a similar issue with the range tool now.
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Post by Janko Kezar » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:06 am

gnickmusic wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:00 pm
Try calling Yamaha office Steinberg support
Not it my country unfortunatelly. Thanks
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Post by Janko Kezar » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:13 am

My ticket was closed without any real solutions after 36 days.They say it was resolved in 9,0.30 which clearly isnt the case since its still presnt (also in 9.5)
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Post by Vinylizor » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:51 pm

This has been a problem for years and has never been properly resolved
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Post by Janko Kezar » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:17 pm

Still present in 9.5.10 though i got word from support it would be fixed in 9.5.10. I give up :x
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Post by Janko Kezar » Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:42 pm

Still present in 9.5.30
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Re: BUG: Cubase 9/9.5 Pre-filter Lowpass automation not working/dissapearing(No Steinberg Support answer for 30 days )

Post by Ivan1981 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:04 pm

Same here! I have currently noticed that automation of LC/HC filter sometimes does not work at playback. But as soon as I open the EQ editor of the track it starts to react to the automation setting. I can’t say that this happens regularly, really don’t know what it depends on but it definitely happens. Very annoying when one has LC/HC filter automation on almost everything....

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Post by Janko Kezar » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:21 pm

This is still present in 10.0.10. Highly doubt it will get fixed
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Post by Ivan1981 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:28 pm

Well, that´s a bit problem, cause in genres like EDM it´s pretty crucial... can’t understand the attitude of Steinberg - always developing new “fantastic” features almost in every new version (= almost every year), but being not able to repair old long-term known bugs

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Re: BUG: Cubase 9/9.5 Pre-filter Lowpass automation not working/dissapearing(No Steinberg Support answer for 30 days )

Post by Janko Kezar » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:35 pm

Yes it is a problem.The pre section is completely unusable.

I tried all the official channels of support several times but all got ignored or closed without a solution, so I dont even bother sending any support tickets because it is a fruitless process.
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Post by Ivan1981 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:31 pm

Not completely unusable, when you set LC/HC (without automation), the filter keeps it, at least the LC does. Just the automation sucks.

Btw. what does actually the “Pre” mean in the head of the filters?

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Post by Janko Kezar » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:45 pm

Pre is meant as a pre fader/pre channelstrip gain.Youre right the automation part is unusable- also for the gain knob it dissapears when set to infinite value.
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Post by Ivan1981 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:15 pm

Not sure, but it seems that at rendering (mixdown) it works, I have never noticed that it wouldn´t be exported with the HC/LC automation being ignored. Of course at playback it´s very confusing what´s going on. I hope that guys from Steinberg are working on it :?

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Post by Janko Kezar » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:23 am

Yes, i have the same results- render works- it doesnt catchup the automation during playback.
This issue has been present since 2012 with version 7 when the new mixer was introduced, so they are working very hard to resolve it yes haha :lol:
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Re: BUG: Cubase 9/9.5 Pre-filter Lowpass automation not working/dissapearing(No Steinberg Support answer for 30 days )

Post by Ivan1981 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:41 am

I take back!!! Yesterday I rendered one track (real-time export) and at one midi track the automated LC filter was NOT applied! So it is not a problem of playback only :!: :x

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Post by Janko Kezar » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:05 am

Oh dear. I stoped using the filter section if there is any automation involved because its to unreliable.
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Post by Janko Kezar » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:10 am

Some good news. Ive sent a project to the devs/support and theyve finally managed to reproduce these issues. Hopefully it will get fixed soon for v 10.
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Post by Janko Kezar » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:48 am

Well i guess not. Still present in 10.0.30
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Post by Ivan1981 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:44 am

Still sucks also in Cubase 10 and 10.0.40 update, right?

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Post by Janko Kezar » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:46 am

still working badly in 10.0.40.
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