Expression Map - Helpful Additions

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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by rhjenkins » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:07 pm

+1
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by Wills01 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:50 pm

I want to add one suggestions related to Expression map.
Expression map is very usefull to command virtual instruments precising the signification of keyswtiches. Is it possible to give a "name" to controler too. I give an example : If we decide in an virtual instument to affect "Vibrato" to the controler 21... It could be better to view "vibrato" in the key editor view .. We currently see "controler 21" and we are obliged to reopen the instrument view to see which is the affectation of this controler...

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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by raino » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:37 pm

reztes wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:15 pm
Yes, they need to be improved.

I would add the ability to change which expression is used by default when recording. Currently is the first one, but it would be nice that you could choose. For instance, I have Violins and some times I want to record with sustain and others with shorts. It would be as easy as allow to click in the panel in the left and select the default articulation (the green triangle).

Expression maps could be a killer feature, but they are like an eternal promise, never fullfiled.
I think if you drag a slot to the top of the list it will use that as the default.

Also if you have a blank slot at the top, nothing becomes the default (or rather that slot is the default and it does nothing).
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by arieln » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:43 am

I would like to link here a feature request I posted while back, which always gets me into trouble.

In short, delay compensation per articulation, extremely useful when dealing with long and short articulations.
viewtopic.php?f=252&t=132935&p=719516#p719516
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by saxmand » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:36 pm

+1

Was thinking about exactly the Independent MIDI offset feature the other day and how awesome that would be for some libraries.

Expression Maps is the future!!
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by reztes » Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:03 am

raino wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:37 pm
reztes wrote:
Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:15 pm
Yes, they need to be improved.

I would add the ability to change which expression is used by default when recording. Currently is the first one, but it would be nice that you could choose. For instance, I have Violins and some times I want to record with sustain and others with shorts. It would be as easy as allow to click in the panel in the left and select the default articulation (the green triangle).

Expression maps could be a killer feature, but they are like an eternal promise, never fullfiled.
I think if you drag a slot to the top of the list it will use that as the default.

Also if you have a blank slot at the top, nothing becomes the default (or rather that slot is the default and it does nothing).
I know, but it is not exactly what I'm asking for.

Currently, you can change it but you have to edit it through the Expression Map menu, which is not the most accessible one.

What I'm asking for is the ability to change it easier and faster in each track. Now I want to record staccatos mainly, then I set the default to staccato. If I want to record sustain, I change the default to sustain again. This way, I can record using the expression maps in a much better way. I think that now you have to stick with the default one when using attributes. I would like this to be more flexible.

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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by fbeauvaisc » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:56 pm

+1
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by Stephen57 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:52 am

the first of what may become an annual +1
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Post by jcbfoos » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:55 pm

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by maxliefkes » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:52 pm

+1 zillion, especially the per articulation delay option

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Post by T-bag » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:40 pm

Just read this after a day at the coalface of preparing some new expression maps - to all of the above + 1 Googol
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by Weasel » Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:02 am

What a great list of excellent
suggestions. If you use Expressions, how could you not plus one this?

+1
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by reztes » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:05 am

Also, folders for keeping your project Expression Maps organized!

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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by jcbfoos » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:52 pm

Also if this bug could be fixed.

viewtopic.php?f=253&t=117118&p=637311&h ... ro#p637311

It's been reported before but never addressed. =(
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by composingkeys » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:39 am

+1

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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by EmmCeeSq » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:05 am

+1 - Essential!
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by ecolvin » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:01 pm

+1 to the original post. Great ideas!
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Post by Puma0382 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:07 am

+1 - the users have spoken.! In great numbers.! With great ideas.! :-)
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by J Buckingham » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:35 am

There is an issue when deleting Expression Maps in the Exp. Map setup. It seems to change the order and thus reassigns Exp. Maps to different tracks. :?
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Re: Expression Map - Helpful Additions

Post by Robert Kooijman » Fri May 17, 2019 2:11 pm

orchetect wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:24 am
Steinberg, please consider adding some basic useful features to setting up/maintaining Expression Maps that will go a long way to helping us save time and sanity.

In the Expression Map Setup window:
  • Please allow us to duplicate a map. A 'Duplicate' button would suffice.
  • Please let us reorder the maps in the list by drag & drop or at least sort alphabetically.
  • Please add some sort of indication whether a Map is in use in the project. This could be as simple as adding a little icon next to it, or making the name of the Map in the list bold. (Massive bonus points if you add a way to see which track(s) are using each Map in a single table.)
  • When deleting an Expression Map, PLEASE add code that checks if that Map is currently in use on a MIDI or Instrument track in the session, and ask for confirmation before deleting if that's the case. It's incredibly easy in large sessions to lose track of where Maps are being used (especially with different revisions of the same Map in use) and inadvertently delete one that is in use, and only discover the oopsie hours or days later.
  • Ability copy and paste slots in the Setup window
In the Key Editor: Bonus:
  • Independent MIDI offset (like milliseconds offset on MIDI tracks, + or -) per articulation; many sample libraries have varying note attacks/pre-laps that vary by articulation.
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