Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

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Re: Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

Post by lordExtra » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:53 pm

raino wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:47 pm
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Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:30 pm
Just give us all the options, and end of story. For as light as one wants and pitch black the like. No more clever "the-software-knows-better-what-looks-good"-mechanisms.
This is key. Different folks have very different ideas about what looks best to them. But beyond that there are lots of people with a variety of vision problems. When Steinberg places limits on color choices it doesn't just affect the aesthetics it also limits the functionality.
Thank you. Thank you very much indeed.
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Re: Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

Post by djw » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:58 am

lordExtra wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:30 pm
The 9.5 colour customisation is indeed so hideously screwed and curtailed that I am beginning to wonder if it's actually the final intended version, or if they simply didn't have time to finish this for the (early?) release, given the new graphics subsystem.
Cool theory, but those two things are unrelated.

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Re: Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

Post by lordExtra » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:50 am

With the deadline for the release? If you mean the graphics engine, it is required to restart Cubase <9.5 for colour changes to take effect, which is an indicator for such thing. But yeah,I might be wrong, and that's pretty scary given the current state of affairs.
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Re: Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

Post by BNY » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:00 pm

You can edit the XML file in /library/preferences to change to any color. I try to attach a print screen of my Cubase 9.5 color scheme in dark grey and with custom color scheme for the tracks, all in fading rainbow colors ;)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9yqeouio40uo4 ... r.png?dl=0

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Re: Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

Post by lordExtra » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:27 pm

Here's another beauty with regards to colours. Might be a bug, or might well be not. Insert slots are now entirely black, disabled slots light grey:

https://ibb.co/nekntR

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Re: Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

Post by fese » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:10 pm

lordExtra wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:37 pm

Also, the new plugin menu is such a strain to the eyes, the text is full burning white, and with that bold font totally fecks me in the head tbh. The "old style explorer" lines and boxed crosses for hierarchy indication were superb, as were the dots for visibility - these "tick marks" totally break the visual code.
Just makes you wonder why someone would think it's a good idea to change things just for the sake of changing - the old design has worked for years now , everybody got used to it - bang, let's change it!
Same with the visibility settings and elsewhere, suddenly we have silly check marks instead of the old circles (which worked fine) - where are we, in a Powerpoint presentation? Why, why, why would someone change that needlessly??
Instead of focusing on getting the existing design mistakes right, they just change things that weren't a problem.
Unify the scrollbars (I counted at least 5 different designs there) for a start...

The features are great, but the design since C7 has been an ongoing disaster.

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Re: Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

Post by lordExtra » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:58 pm

fese wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:10 pm
lordExtra wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:37 pm

Also, the new plugin menu is such a strain to the eyes, the text is full burning white, and with that bold font totally fecks me in the head tbh. The "old style explorer" lines and boxed crosses for hierarchy indication were superb, as were the dots for visibility - these "tick marks" totally break the visual code.
Just makes you wonder why someone would think it's a good idea to change things just for the sake of changing - the old design has worked for years now , everybody got used to it - bang, let's change it!

The features are great, but the design since C7 has been an ongoing disaster.
I have three theories regarding this:

a: It's (useless) work in progress.
b: They are trying to make Cubase just a little bit more awkward and silly in order to set it apart from Nuendo, which is 3x the $.
c: Both a+b

One could raise a fourth one, being they don't know what to do with their time in office. I doubt that though. There's been a trend throughout the creative software industry in abolishing older, slightly unusual yet very effective workflow- / UX paradigms, hoping to make the software more accessible to even the tiniest mind in order to broaden the target market. A bit like Hollywood, that at some point realised that if they refrain from showing blood in cinema, even small kids can watch any flick that would have previously been 18+. The bodycount remained the same however.
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Re: Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

Post by lordExtra » Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:01 pm

BNY wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:00 pm
You can edit the XML file in /library/preferences to change to any color. I try to attach a print screen of my Cubase 9.5 color scheme in dark grey and with custom color scheme for the tracks, all in fading rainbow colors ;)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9yqeouio40uo4 ... r.png?dl=0
Sa-weet! Thanks man, I though about this but didn't get to look up on it yet...what's the .xml file name?

Edit: UserPrefs obviously. What line or parameter name is it though? Never had to edit an .xml before, and was slightly confused not to find hex values formatting for the colours. Couldn't make sense of the 7 digit values, is one of them the alpha? Thanks in advance.

Two things left: old Mediabay and plugin menu look, but that's probably hardcoded. Maybe time to turn to the almighty...
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Re: Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

Post by michaebourne » Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:33 pm

You can copy-paste colors from other settings, that seems to be the only way go around it..

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Re: Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

Post by JoPo » Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:07 pm

lordExtra wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:01 pm
BNY wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:00 pm
You can edit the XML file in /library/preferences to change to any color. I try to attach a print screen of my Cubase 9.5 color scheme in dark grey and with custom color scheme for the tracks, all in fading rainbow colors ;)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9yqeouio40uo4 ... r.png?dl=0
Sa-weet! Thanks man, I though about this but didn't get to look up on it yet...what's the .xml file name?

Edit: UserPrefs obviously. What line or parameter name is it though? Never had to edit an .xml before, and was slightly confused not to find hex values formatting for the colours. Couldn't make sense of the 7 digit values, is one of them the alpha? Thanks in advance.

Two things left: old Mediabay and plugin menu look, but that's probably hardcoded. Maybe time to turn to the almighty...
Yep ! Good question ! :

- Which xml file is it ? .... And ....
- Is it possible to change all parts colors, like grid, loop area, inspector, in editors or project window, and so on ? ... Thanks ! ;)
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Re: Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

Post by Manike » Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:48 pm

They've done it so the overall hue of the background is also present in the visual feedback included plugins, like delay etc.


Took me a while to get what I wanted, but I don't an an issue with the new colour options. People shouldn't be trusted with fully customisable colour palettes in my opinion. I've seen some real shockers from screenshots etc :lol: :lol:
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Re: Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

Post by peakae » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:07 pm

I like it, made it darker, looks great, and much easier on the eyes.
Don't mind some restrictions on the color palette.
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Re: Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

Post by lordExtra » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:57 pm

Any progress regarding .xml editing? Please share if so. Cheers
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Re: Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

Post by Romantique Tp » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:40 pm

lordExtra wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:58 pm
One could raise a fourth one, being they don't know what to do with their time in office.
Says the guy wasting his time making ridiculous blind assumptions on an internet forum.
Every time someone says "it must be easy to add/fix", a programmer dies.

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Re: Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

Post by lordExtra » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:17 am

Romantique Tp wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:40 pm
lordExtra wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:58 pm
One could raise a fourth one, being they don't know what to do with their time in office.
Says the guy wasting his time making ridiculous blind assumptions on an internet forum.
Says the guy wasting his time commenting on such? hahaha...
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Re: Colors Limitation for customization in 9,5

Post by antonisklp » Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:15 am

Cubase is not photoshop!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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