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Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:31 pm
by audioguy
There's no area at the ends of the scroll bars that increments a different amount of scrolling than would otherwise be the case if you clicked anywhere besides the scroll block area.

As per the linked post from Steve, modifier keys such as SHIFT and CTRL serve to make the process of scrolling easier.

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:00 am
by -steve-
audioguy wrote:There's no area at the ends of the scroll bars that increments a different amount of scrolling than would otherwise be the case if you clicked anywhere besides the scroll block area.
Not sure what scroll block area means– the scroll bar? Anyway, here's this animated gif of me trying to hit the invisible scroll buttons. The invisible buttons do not make sense to me.

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:27 am
by -steve-
Hey, I hit the target 6 out of 7 times. I got the high score on this machine as of now.

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:09 am
by vic_france
SteveInChicago wrote:Hey, I hit the target 6 out of 7 times. I got the high score on this machine as of now.
Unless I too have never found the "G spot" (quite possible ;) ), just like audioguy, I find no difference between clicking in the blank area just beyond the "line" on which the scroll widget sits, and clicking on the very end of that line itself.

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:37 am
by -steve-
Are you saying it works different for me than for you? (watch my gif if you haven't)

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:22 am
by vic_france
SteveInChicago wrote:Are you saying it works different for me than for you? (watch my gif if you haven't)
I don't think so.. try redoing the test in your gif, but also clicking on the very end of the scroll "line", and compare the result (i.e. the amount of scrolling) with clicking in that blank area. (I could be wrong of course.. my brain is out on loan this week :P )

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:42 pm
by -steve-
If I click on the line, right at the end or anywhere on it, it does a larger move; in the space, say on the right-side end between the line's end and the zoom drop down menu, it does a smaller move. Could this be a Mac/PC difference?

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:05 am
by vic_france
SteveInChicago wrote:If I click on the line, right at the end or anywhere on it, it does a larger move; in the space, say on the right-side end between the line's end and the zoom drop down menu, it does a smaller move. Could this be a Mac/PC difference?
It does seem to be the same here on Mac (and I have tried at different horizontal zoom levels)
Just to reassure me.. in case I have never actually found the "invisible button".. what happens if you click elsewhere in that blank area?

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:58 am
by James K
Back on topic. Yes I agree a tad too thin....and so are the volume and pan sliders at the top of the inspector.

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:10 am
by audioguy
So have we confirmed that scrollbars work differently between OS's?

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:10 pm
by aricastudio
I agree with all that are frustrated by stupid changes that only inconvenience long time users. Who the hell wants to spend time figuring out how to work with the updates to the program instead of making music. It is a virus! This notion that everything has to be continually messed with. Aaaarghh!
Please leave well enough alone and spend your programming muster in useful stuff, not breaking stuff that works.
And give me back scroll bars that are useable, visible and serviceable!!!

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:17 pm
by aricastudio
Hey I am totally with Suntower. I feel your pain!
And I also feel the pain of those of us that no longer or never had great vision or had/have compromised fine motor skills or shitty mouses.

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:30 pm
by Geppastro
Just realized I never +1ed this one: unforgivable!

+1000

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:43 pm
by MarcoDavis123
yes YEs YES

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 11:42 am
by ocean-music
+1
I jumped from Cubase 5 to Cubase 9 and every time I work on a project GUI-stuff annoys me and there are things I look for in preferences but can't find / can't change. When your brain has been hardwired to a GUI for several years and suddenly stuff are smaller, or moved, and you can't customize it... it makes me wanna go back to C5 actually.

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 1:33 pm
by c28560
+1 Scrollbars are too skinny.

Actually I've reconsidered, I like the skinny scrollbars.

I now navigate horizontally via shift + mouse wheel. With my low resolution screen I'll take every useful pixel I can get.

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 2:37 pm
by alexis
Anyone ever stop and wonder about the decision-making process to make them skinnier?

And I wonder about the beta process - did all the beta testers say, "Yes! I love the skinny scroll bars!!".

W10 has a nice way of handling them - they are skinny until moused over, then turn big.

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 7:14 am
by Weasel
Cubase’s navigational tools are like playing “Operation”. Pretty much the same except for the buzzing. If they added buzzing when you miss a scroller, that’d just be perfect.

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 12:49 am
by Gr8h8m
+100000 totally does my head in

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 4:18 am
by alexis
Weasel wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 7:14 am
Cubase’s navigational tools are like playing “Operation”. Pretty much the same except for the buzzing. If they added buzzing when you miss a scroller, that’d just be perfect.
Now that is frggn hilarious!

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 5:20 am
by reberclark
So, I'm new here and new to Cubase and at first I thought the small scrollbars were stupid but then by discovering shift+mousewheel I found I had no need for those scrollbars and shift+mousewheel was more accurate anyway. My 2 cents.

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 5:28 am
by StefK
Weasel wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 7:14 am
Cubase’s navigational tools are like playing “Operation”. Pretty much the same except for the buzzing. If they added buzzing when you miss a scroller, that’d just be perfect.
nice one! :lol:

Re: Skinny Scrollbars Stink

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 5:29 am
by StefK
aricastudio wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:10 pm
I agree with all that are frustrated by stupid changes that only inconvenience long time users. Who the hell wants to spend time figuring out how to work with the updates to the program instead of making music. It is a virus! This notion that everything has to be continually messed with. Aaaarghh!
Please leave well enough alone and spend your programming muster in useful stuff, not breaking stuff that works.
And give me back scroll bars that are useable, visible and serviceable!!!
+1