Show/hide Custom playing techniques

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Show/hide Custom playing techniques

Post by patrom » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:59 pm

You can hide custom playing techniques but how do you show them again?
Normal playing techniques get a signpost when hidden, so you can select and change (show) again in the properties panel.
But custom playing techniques don't get a signpost?

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Re: Show/hide Custom playing techniques

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:55 pm

Switch on View > Signposts > Playing Techniques so you can see the signposts corresponding to the playing techniques. Select the signpost and deactivate the 'Hide' property in the Properties panel.

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Re: Show/hide Custom playing techniques

Post by patrom » Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:50 am

That's what I did. With a little more investigation, when I create a new custom playing technique it shows a signpost, but for my older custom playing techniques it doesn't work. These are techniques I created in previous versions. I tried to edit those techniques (like save as default) but this didn't change anything. Is this something you can reproduce?

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Re: Show/hide Custom playing techniques

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:48 pm

If you want to attach a project that reproduces the problem here, I'll be happy to take a look for you.

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Re: Show/hide Custom playing techniques

Post by patrom » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:08 pm

A simple example: The vib technique will show the signpost, my custom 'detache long' technique shows nothing.
Thanks for checking
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Re: Show/hide Custom playing techniques

Post by fratveno » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:45 pm

try entering something in the popover text field...
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Re: Show/hide Custom playing techniques

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:10 am

Yes, that will help for the time being. We'll look at making Dorico try a bit harder to grab some text from inside the item itself in future, too.

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Re: Show/hide Custom playing techniques

Post by patrom » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:46 pm

The shift + p popover also doesn't find the older playing techniques when entering them, with the new ones there's again no problem.
Or didn't I understand the solution?

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Re: Show/hide Custom playing techniques

Post by fratveno » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:48 pm

does this help?
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Re: Show/hide Custom playing techniques

Post by patrom » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:16 pm

Filling in the popover text shows the signpost, thanks very much.
For new playing techniques it's not required.

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Re: Show/hide Custom playing techniques

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:32 pm

It will be required for any playing technique that doesn't otherwise have any text in the 'Popover text' field in Engrave > Playing Techniques, new or old.

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