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Pandemic

Post by MarkSealey » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:11 pm

Would it be appropriate (understood if the moderators think not) to say how re-assuring I for one find it to see musicians and the 'scoring community' discussing the good fortune we have of being Dorico users, and how it enhances our life - and provides perspective - at a time of great external threat?

Thanks, everyone; and stay well and safe!
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Re: Pandemic

Post by k_b » Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:16 am

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Corona (or Coronata) in old musical Italian means a general fermata, where everybody stops, when everything comes to a halt..
„Pausam generalem“
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Re: Pandemic

Post by benwiggy » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:42 am

Lovely, k_b: where's it from?

Hopefully everyone is safe and well, and finding lots of time for honing Dorico skills!
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Re: Pandemic

Post by Estigy » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:07 am

Wow, even I as a German native speaker did not think of this "Corona" marking thingy.
Great parallels to our current lives!
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Re: Pandemic

Post by Alexander Plötz » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:41 am

In the Wozzeck score, Berg consistently refers to each fermata as a "Couronne". I remember that it took me a while until I realised what he meant.
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Re: Pandemic

Post by Alexander Plötz » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:47 am

Still less weird, though, than Schönberg, who uses the term "Haltung", which usually carries a distinctly different meaning in modern German than the one he is drawing from it (it actually works better in English, where you can pretty straightforwardly translate it as "halting", as a noun).

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Post by k_b » Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:17 pm

It is from
Walther, Johann Gottfried: Musicalisches Lexicon
Leipzig 1732.

on page 186: https://reader.digitale-sammlungen.de/d ... 00206.html
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Re: Pandemic

Post by johnabram » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:34 pm

MarkSealey wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:11 pm
Would it be appropriate (understood if the moderators think not) to say how re-assuring I for one find it to see musicians and the 'scoring community' discussing the good fortune we have of being Dorico users, and how it enhances our life - and provides perspective - at a time of great external threat?
Indeed!
It's good to escape from the madness outside into the cool fragrant Dorico cloisters
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Re: Pandemic

Post by L3B » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:49 pm

Here I had been thinking what a relief it was that there was ONE place on the web I could go where nothing was said about this very pervasive threat. And, lo, here we are talking about it HERE! Oh well. At least this is a pleasant thread, and I love the example k_b brought.

Everybody PLEASE stay healthy and happy!!!
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Re: Pandemic

Post by MarkSealey » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:24 pm

Last night something happened which will force us out of our self-imposed isolation to get dental help: the crown fell off one of my teeth.

The dentist office always turns off the canned muzak while I'm there, showing great consideration for my abhorrence of it. Perhaps on Monday they will be playing something by Sarasate.

Stay safe, one and all.
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Post by DaddyO » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:24 am

Take care Mark. Hope things go well.
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Re: Pandemic

Post by MarkSealey » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:17 am

You too! Thanks :-)

A new (and rather disturbing development) is 'denier parties' here in the US.

Tonight we had to contend with a group of neighbours a couple of doors down blocking the road by sitting as closely together as they could in large numbers drinking beer with the sound source turned up in defiance of the order under which California is now operating and in defiance of the seriousness of SARS-2.
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Post by Derrek » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:48 pm

I just hope the CA shelter-in-place order is not stopping food-industry workers from going to work when healthy.
Sorry some of your neighbors are not taking this seriously.
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Post by MarkSealey » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:51 pm

Thanks, Derrek. Yes CA shelter-in-place has provisions for most services like that.

The neighbours were carrying out an act of denial - as many here do over the climate catastrophe (to which SARS-2 is linked, of course), and as a gesture which attempts to persuade the gullible and ill-informed that the pandemic is a hoax to remove T**mp.

Back to the bars :-)
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Re: Pandemic

Post by Rob Tuley » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:06 pm

I've seen discussions on a normally serious law forum, on whether or not banning any form of assembly is contrary to the US constitution and whether these orders should be put on hold until the Supreme Court has considered the matter.

Only in the USA... ;)

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Post by PF Slow » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:17 pm

k_b wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:16 am
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Corona (or Coronata) in old musical Italian means a general fermata, where everybody stops, when everything comes to a halt..
„Pausam generalem“
Hmmm... not because of the Latin? co-rō-na "garland worn on the head as a mark of honor or emblem of majesty, halo around a celestial body, top part of an entablature (a horizontal, continuous lintel on a classical building supported by columns or a wall, comprising the architrave, frieze, and cornice.)", the root of crown etc.
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Post by benwiggy » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:52 pm

PF Slow wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:17 pm
Hmmm... not because of the Latin? co-rō-na
Perhaps you think they called it a corona because you had to ... frieze?
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Re: Pandemic

Post by Alexander Plötz » Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:25 pm

Rob Tuley wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:06 pm
...whether or not banning any form of assembly is contrary to the US constitution...

Only in the USA... ;)
Well, actually... in the German discourse there are a few voices trying to start such a discussion, arguing that we might be on the path towards authoritarianism. With respect to the US there is the difference, though, that I can be reasonably certain that this discussion will remain on the fringe over here.

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Re: Pandemic

Post by MarkSealey » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:52 pm

The etymology of the word does seem most often to be from its shape… bending. Indeed, one source has:
from suffixed form of PIE root *sker-
to turn or bend; where PIE is Proto-IndoEuropean.

One should indeed be concerned about authoritarianism; just that, as I understand it, the US constitution (implicitly, and as there was no provision for pandemics in the C18th) allows for measures taken to avert catastrophes to take precedence over conventional forms of 'government'.

If the medics have to fight SARS-2 on two fronts (caring for the sick + controlling the deniers) things will surely get worse.

Placido Domingo today announced that he is infected.
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Post by Derrek » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:49 pm

I hope we are not going to get into political discussions on this forum. We can get that on Twitter, etc. if we want it.
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Post by pianoleo » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:58 pm

I wouldn’t go so far as to say that I’m starting to enjoy the repetition, but the familiarity is comforting at a time when everything “normal” feels a little irrelevant.

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Post by Scab Pickens » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:24 pm

Derrek wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:49 pm
I hope we are not going to get into political discussions on this forum. We can get that on Twitter, etc. if we want it.
In the old Steinberg forum days this thread would have been moved to the lounge almost immediately. Coincidentally, there is a similar topic currently available. I know you Dorico guys (and gals) don't go visiting other sub-forums regularly, but it wouldn't hurt. ;)

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Post by pianoleo » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:59 pm

Thanks; I’ve offloaded there ;)
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Re: Pandemic

Post by MarkSealey » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:13 am

That's OK by me; as I said in my op, I trust the moderators to do with my positive sentiments what they will. And stand by the notion that there is so much here to lift the spirits that I'm grateful for it!
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…In the old Steinberg forum days this thread would have been moved to the lounge almost immediately.…
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Re: Pandemic

Post by FredGUnn » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:54 am

Scab Pickens wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:24 pm
In the old Steinberg forum days this thread would have been moved to the lounge almost immediately. Coincidentally, there is a similar topic currently available. I know you Dorico guys (and gals) don't go visiting other sub-forums regularly, but it wouldn't hurt. ;)

viewtopic.php?f=198&t=183376
I had never really checked the other sub-forums. It would maybe be cool to get a music notation thread going there ... I'm kind of a notation geek and would love to get a good conversation going if anyone would like to geek out with me.

In a somewhat related note, since we can't actually play music live with other musicians anymore for a few months, I'm excited that this single from the next "Orrin Evans and the Captain Black Big Band" CD was released today!!! We are a Grammy-nominated band, and Sean Jones sounds amazing on flugel on my arrangement, which was probably only the 3rd or 4th chart I had ever written in Dorico. (I'm playing alto, but Stacy Dillard on tenor has lead on the ensemble sections over the pedal) Please check it out if you have a chance!
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