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Enjoy. This update is now live. You should get an e-mail or you can head right over to the web site, enter your e-mail address, and pick up the update.

https://www.nycmusicservices.com/notation-express/

Thanks to Leo again for the "lion's" share of the work. Appropriate name.

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Great! Thanks!

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Thanks, Philip and Leo!
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Pleasure! Marc, shall I send you over another marked up JSON?
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That would be great! I 'll try and do the porting tomorrow
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I'm going to work on porting to German right now - just one question: Is there a way to copy "pages" or single actions/buttons from one Stream Deck profile to another? It would be easier to keep the German "Dorico 2" profile and just add the "Dorico 3" changes to it, but I don't see a trivial way to do that... I can't open multiple instances to drag and drop from one to the other, for example.
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You can copy and paste individual buttons or whole folders. Select in one profile, Ctrl/Cmd+C, switch to the other profile, Ctrl/Cmd+V. There isn’t a huge amount, but there are some new commands in the JSON, some of which can’t be added from within Dorico: I think it’s just the three Harmonics functions.
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Excellent, that should make the whole thing a breeze. Thanks!
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Thanks, Leo, Tim, and Marc! Yes, the way the Stream Deck desktop app is designed is that you can only have one instance open at a time; I assume it's so that whatever you have on-screen mimics the deck at all times. But, it would be nice to have some sort of "developers mode".

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MarcLarcher wrote:
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That would be great! I 'll try and do the porting tomorrow
Mark, I use your french version of the Notation Express and it works like a charm. Thanks for sharing it !
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I've just sent the updated German files to Philip :) I hope I didn't miss anything...
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Dear Paz,
Thanks for the feedback! I'm in the middle of the job… Hopefully done tomorrow!
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Excellent, thanks Marc and Tim. For everyone following, once Marc is finished, I’ll send a message to all Notation Express and XL users letting them know that updated Mac/French and Windows/German versions are available. I think I’ll make it a proper download through the NYC Music Services store (free for existing users) so that it’s always kept updated and anyone can access it the same way they access the official English version.

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Philip, I just sent you the files! :-)
And now, it's time to go to sleep!
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These language variations are now all available through the Notation Express web site. Scroll down to the FAQs and the section on other languages.

Verification of a qualifying purchase of Notation Express (via entry of the e-mail address you used for your initial purchase) is required to download one of the language variations.

http://notationexpress.com/

Thanks, Tim and Marc!

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Vielen Dank für die Arbeit. Diese Nachricht würde am besten in eine deutsche Foren-Untergruppe von Dorico passen. Leider ist die Hamburger Firma Steinberg dazu nicht in der Lage :-(
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Well, everyone, it seems imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. For any of you out there who like notation express but also still do work in finale: https://jetstreamfinale.com/
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Sort of. We're aware of it here at Notation Express HQ, and it's with our blessing ;)
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Oh yes- I didn't mean to disparage it. No doubt it will be as useful to finale users as Notation Express is for me in Dorico. More power to them, although I had to chuckle because the source of the inspiration was clear. (It also seems to lack a bit of the visual finesse of the Dorico version.)
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FYI, I just purchased a Stream Deck XL fro Best Buy for $199.00. The price also dropped on Amazon. I'll be picking up Notation Express shortly.

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pianoleo wrote:
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For what it’s worrh, I use a Logitech G13 gamepad in conjunction with Dorico. It’s essentially an extra keyboard that fits under my left hand...
Leo, has your setup changed in the last year? Are you using the gamepad anymore, or exclusively the stream deck? I'm interested if your work flow (mostly note input) is more efficient?

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Enjoy, Chris, and thanks to all here who have contributed, especially Leo's stewardship of the Dorico side and Marc and Tim for the language variants. What a fun trip it's been!

And, I must say, I am a very active user of Notation Express. We've got some short tips in the works for early 2020 to help users get even more out of it. Stay tuned! In the meantime, happy holiday wishes to all.

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theduke wrote:
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Leo, has your setup changed in the last year? Are you using the gamepad anymore, or exclusively the stream deck? I'm interested if your work flow (mostly note input) is more efficient?
I still haven’t settled on one workflow, and I don’t think I ever will - there are too many variables.

If I’m home and in “work mode” (in the study, with the big screen and the 88-key stage piano) then it’s a free-for-all. For getting lots of notes in quickly, I will still use the G13 under one hand and the midi keyboard under the other. That said, if I’m tweaking some existing material and realise I need to add a couple of notes, and both hands are already on the computer keyboard, I’ll keep using the computer keyboard. If I’m throwing in dynamics or articulations and one hand is on the Stream Deck (as it often is), that hand will remain on the Stream Deck.

If I’m home but in “slob mode” (I guess the nice term would be “agile” or “multitasking”) and a client asks for a quick fix, I’ll work entirely (but generally briefly) from just the laptop. Unintuitive though they are, I’ve committed some of Notation Express’s underlying keyboard shortcuts to memory so that I can use them without the Stream Deck being there.

If I’m on the move, it really just depends. On Friday I was on planes for 14 hours. I’m away for a week with plenty of time to kill (and a few jobs to do) so I packed a small MIDI keyboard and my Stream Deck XL, while carrying my regular Stream Deck and laptop in hand luggage. A pianist colleague (that doesn’t read chord charts) asked me - on Thursday night - to realise a rather fiddly chart for her by Saturday morning. I wish I’d had a MIDI keyboard in hand luggage in order to speed up that job on the plane, but I made do with just the laptop and quord mode.

One thing that I’ll try to share (probably in late January) is how the folders in Notation Express can be customised to give you a faster workflow. Whether in Dorico’s GUI/menus or Stream Deck’s folders, a potential speedbump is in having to repeatedly drill down through menus or subfolders. For this reason I often adapt Notation Express folders for specific projects or clients, so that the functions I most commonly need are on one screen (folder).

I’ve probably just over shared unnecessarily, but I guess the point I’m trying to make is that my efficiency comes from adapting to the situation and the requirements.
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Appreciate your time sharing. Thank you. One more thing, when using the stream deck, are you using it by touch only, like the gamepad? Do you often have to look at it? Just trying to gauge the difference between the stream deck and a touch device (metagrid etc). Touch screen wouldn't be usable if relying on rote / muscle memory / touch etc. Would it? Dan and anyone else, are you using yours by touch only to aid in workflow?

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