[BON-18357] Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by dakn » Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:59 pm

Not only is it annoying and gets in the way of simply attempting to resize a window, but they also pop up through my vst's!

Please let us disable this "feature" which is already easily accessible enough in the "set up window layout" box in the corner of ever window - which is also easy to bring up by pressing shift-f2.

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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by The Elf » Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:05 pm

8.5.20

They're still there folks... Damn, damn, damn!!!!!

Last night alone I unwittingly switched on the chord pad panel four times in the space of ten minutes. I never use chord pads and have no need of them. Please, Steinberg, why are you torturing your long-time customers in this way?
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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by gmmccurdy » Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:02 pm

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by jaesm » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:36 pm

Helooo Steinberg! Didn't you mention something about listening to us at some point? :(
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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by Frozenwave » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:05 pm

I think they added a bit more delay until the edge pop ups show. And that really, really upsets me. Why? Because it shows me that they know that users have an issue with it but absolutely do not want to make this feature optional or remove it altogether.

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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by The Elf » Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:27 am

I would place a sizeable bet that this was the idea of a senior executive. Nobody wants to tell him it's a dumb idea and nobody wants to be the one to suggest getting rid of it! :lol:
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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by Puma0382 » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:58 am

Frozenwave wrote:I think they added a bit more delay until the edge pop ups show.
+1

The behaviour is more agreeable now... I'm certainly not 'accidently' seeing these things appear in my face as often as I did...
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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by AP » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:03 am

jaesm wrote:Helooo Steinberg! Didn't you mention something about listening to us at some point? :(
This feature is like an over produced song. You know the kind of song that's sounds great with 8 instruments. But the producer added too many instruments in the mix and destroyed an amazing song.

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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by islandmusicpro » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:31 pm

Puma0382 wrote:
Frozenwave wrote:I think they added a bit more delay until the edge pop ups show.
+1

The behaviour is more agreeable now... I'm certainly not 'accidently' seeing these things appear in my face as often as I did...
Plus, I think you don't have to click anywhere anymore to make them go away! I worked with it all morning and saw them once or twice...
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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by Frozenwave » Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:16 am

I still want this feature to be optional. The added latency helps but pop ups still occure every now and then, mostly if I got plugins opened, especially with big interfaces like Halion 5.

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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by raino » Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:00 pm

islandmusicpro wrote: Plus, I think you don't have to click anywhere anymore to make them go away! I worked with it all morning and saw them once or twice...
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Yes they go away on their own now. Having to click once they appeared before being able to do anything else was 95% of my grievance with them. I'd prefer to have the ability to turn them off, but can live with this new behavior.
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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by Novikthewise » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:15 am

I didn't bother much about this as i think it depends on your workflow wether it gets in you way or not. I use a crap load of keycommands for pretty much everything. I use the Mouse only to navigate precisely in my project moving events or cutting stuff or riding some faders in the Mixconsole. It never really gets in my way. But i can see why people are annoyed by it.
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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by Romantique Tp » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:28 am

Novikthewise wrote:I didn't bother much about this as i think it depends on your workflow wether it gets in you way or not. I use a crap load of keycommands for pretty much everything. I use the Mouse only to navigate precisely in my project moving events or cutting stuff or riding some faders in the Mixconsole. It never really gets in my way. But i can see why people are annoyed by it.
I think it also depends a lot on your mouse sensitivity. I set my mouse to 800 dpi and Windows sensitivity to 6/11 and these popups show up accidentally only like once or twice a month.
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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by The Elf » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:32 am

We all seem to be discussing how easy it is to avoid these damnable things. Why should we settle for 'it's OK, I can live with it' when nobody wants them and they need getting rid of?!?

Yes, it's an improvement, but I ask once more - does anyone actually find these pop-ups useful? Because if you do you now have to work harder to get them to come up and you have to wait until they appear. I think that tells us that nobody is using them, or people would be complaining about that now!
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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by islandmusicpro » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:47 pm

The Elf wrote:We all seem to be discussing how easy it is to avoid these damnable things. Why should we settle for 'it's OK, I can live with it' when nobody wants them and they need getting rid of?!?

Yes, it's an improvement, but I ask once more - does anyone actually find these pop-ups useful? Because if you do you now have to work harder to get them to come up and you have to wait until they appear. I think that tells us that nobody is using them, or people would be complaining about that now!
I concur, we shouldn't have to figure out workarounds in order to disable shiny new features. Please make them optional in Preferences.

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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by Novikthewise » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:28 am

The Elf wrote: Yes, it's an improvement, but I ask once more - does anyone actually find these pop-ups useful?
I agree with you. I don't use them at all so its not usefull to me and yes it either should be optional or erased all togehter. I din't want to discuss workarounds for a useless feature. I just stated that due to my workflow it never got in my way. Its way quicker to use keycommands instead of fiddling around on the edge of the screen. Its especially useless when you have 2 or more screens. I for instance have two screens. The left usually shows my Project while the right one shows either the Mixconsole or midieditors, sample editors, tempo track or plugin instruments depending on my screenset. While the mouse arrow stops at the very end of my screens its easy to bring up the popups. If i wanted to bring up the racks with these you have to precicely navigate the arrow on the right edge of my left screens wich is more difficult as it can go over to the right screen. Pressing alt+t instead is precise and quick.
I find using the mouse almost exlusively is so damn inefficient. :lol:
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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by noiseboyuk » Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:55 pm

IMO it's not really improved. Several times yesterday I had the pop up appear and not go away as I wanted to click something on the transport bar which I keep at the top of the screen (which the pop up itself obliterated). It's still a ghastly design choice, Steinberg.
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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by glvaughan » Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:00 am

These edge zone windows are always popping up when I'm working to resize or click on something near the edges. They drive me crazy and I can't believe there isn't a preference setting to disable them. Please provide this option in the next update!
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Re: Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop ups

Post by oneixl » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:10 pm

this is by far the worst new feature. please remove this terrible idea

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Re: [BON-18357] Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop up

Post by extralife » Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:44 am

Yep. I'm new to Cubase and thought it was a glitch the other night. Now I know what it was. Not a cool feature. I vote get rid of it. Replace it with something useful like the ability to go to full screen mode in Apple OS.

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Re: [BON-18357] Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop up

Post by gmmccurdy » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:12 pm

This is freakin insane!!! Yesterday before our church service I spent 30..45 seconds just trying to resize my mixer screen!!! When I'm on stage I use a laptop and trying to resize a window with this STUPID pop up on a touchpad is crazy. I feel like I'm having to dance around the pop up to grab the edge. Geez, I thought Microsoft's "Clippy" was bad, wow ... I'd take him over this any day!
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Re: [BON-18357] Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop up

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Post by cemprotz » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:29 pm

+1

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Re: [BON-18357] Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop up

Post by MaestroMetro7 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:58 pm

Very annoying feature and especially if this also includes the Chord Pad check box pop up that gets in the way every time time I attempt to do something very simple like resizing my window.

Every freakin' time I try to resize the sides or move the horizontal scroll bar of my project where my tracks are, there it goes jumping in the way like its begging me to use it. I literally have to make my cursor run away from it and grab an edge before it's realized I've repositioned my cursor just to keep doing my work....argggg!!!

Yes I definitely want the option to disable it. +2

1 for me and 1 for my sanity.

PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!!

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Re: [BON-18357] Option to disable new 8.5 window edge pop up

Post by McBass » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:27 pm

Pop up and hover over buttons are the worst GUI concept. Seems like a quick programing work around when the designers have no idea how to create clean and function GUIs.....A better concept would be to add customizable and dock-able tool bars that you can program to do any key command. Just like the key command page on Steinberg's own Cubase IC pro. Add solid touch support and have it dock-able anywhere right on the project page. Makes a heck of a lot more sense to me!
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