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Post by Romantique Tp » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:01 pm

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Shows how much you've read this thread Steve considering i have. You must've had a good night out last night and not thinking straight. I guess thats an opinion too. What I'm stating is a fact and once again, Steinberg affiliates brushing it under the carpet. Im heading to Pro Tools. Done with this.
Here's a fact: Those two plugins are good for nothing besides making your instruments sound like a bunch of angry bees. You can get a better sound from basically any guitar amp simulator, including the ones that come with Cubase (AmpSimulator, VST Amp Rack, VST Bass Amp), by just disabling the cabinet simulation and using the tone controls or some EQ. You can get something similar to the old Quadrafuzz sound by doing the same thing but using a frequency splitter plugin.

Learn, adapt, and experiment. Don't waste time praying for them to bring these obsolete plugins back because it's absolutely never going to happen. They weren't thought highly of even back in 2005, and they're only worse now.

Nobody directly affiliated to Steinberg (this includes steve) has replied to this thread. The almost universally negative reception this thread has received so far should tell you how irrelevant native 32 bit support is to most people. The fact that you ONLY need it to use two weak sounding plugins doesn't help your case at all.

Threatening to switch DAWs because you can't use stuff that sounds like a broken pedal is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard, and does nothing to help you. If this is so important to you, get an old laptop and use it to run Cubase 8.5 linked to your main rig running Cubase 9 like many people suggested.
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Post by chris995 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:59 pm

For EDM and dubstep, Angry bees are good. But weak.. sounds like you're contradicting yourself there mate. But thanks for the suggestion il check it out.

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Post by swamptone » Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:49 pm

-6db wrote:
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....................... And to highlight the irony of all this, I should add that one of my favorite "vintage" plugs is the Steinberg/Wizoo X-Phraze. This is one of the coolest synth plugs ever made..............................

+1

Agree 100%!

But I still hope it can be rejuvenated ................. preferably before I die.
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Post by NorthWood MediaWorks » Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:42 pm

I am happy with Jbridge for going to the past.... One of the better $14 I've spent over the years. I have to say that there are certain plugs from back then that simply have not been replicated, nor are there suitable replacements, so I support that subjectivity. As there are other methods for harnessing them however, I don't blame Steinberg for turning their back on things 32, its been stated for years now that this would happen. So the petition is a bit toothless given those facts. I've yet to go C9, but have pondered this very dilemma already, but no worries here.

As for the SB plugs that wont work in jBridge, there are still workarounds, I have older versions of Cubase still installed, I have SX-3 still running on one equally dinosaur-ish machine, as I am still converting older projects from formats like Cubase SE and the like (hoping to finish that someday :lol: ). So I can simply work in those older DAWs to get those sounds, then render and import. No need to network the apps even.

There's a will and a way in all this. 8-) And I still love Embracer!

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Post by chris995 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:37 pm

Clearly theres a problem at Steinberg HQ if they can't revive them. Laughable to be honest. That and the negative heat they are getting on social media for 9.5. I want to continue supporting you guys but honestly need to get a few things sorted out. Quite a few of us use your DAW for FULL TIME business purposes and you're not making life easier for your own selfishness DEV gratification. PLEASE Bring back all the legacy plugins in 64bit format. Then we can fully forget about 32bit all together.

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Post by shadowfax » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:56 pm

so where is the 64 bit plugin that is better than Broomstick bass please? :) :)
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Post by -steve- » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:25 pm

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so where is the 64 bit plugin that is better than Broomstick bass please? :) :)
Shouldn't that question be directed to developer of Broomstick Bass? http://www.bornemark.se
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Post by shadowfax » Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:01 pm

-steve- wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:25 pm
shadowfax wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:56 pm
so where is the 64 bit plugin that is better than Broomstick bass please? :) :)
Shouldn't that question be directed to developer of Broomstick Bass? http://www.bornemark.se
I was asking if anyone knew of an alternative 64 bit vst that does what Broomstick bass does, since a few peeps on this thread have said are lots of new 64 bit vst's that are better than the 32 bit one's I just thought someone might know of one...that's all.. :) :) :)
it definitely doesn't look like Bornemark are gonna update Broomstick..just asking Steve,:) :) :) just asking.. :) :)
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Post by matjones » Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:17 pm

Very little out there to touch Trilian imho
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Post by shadowfax » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:17 pm

matjones wrote:
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Very little out there to touch Trilian imho
Hi, yeah, I've got Trilian, the thing about Broomstick is that it just more or less plays itself, lay the chords out and it'll play a bassline, not always desirable but sometimes handy for a simple quick bassline.. :) :)
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Post by chris995 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:56 am

So many things this new software is disabling creators.

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Post by shadowfax » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:34 am

chris995 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:56 am
So many things this new software is disabling creators.

not really my friend..just keep 8.5 :) :)
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Post by mitchiemasha » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:43 pm

chris995 wrote:
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So many things this new software is disabling creators.
Exactly the opposite, new features taking creativity to the next level for many users. If new features arn't doing it for you, stick with the old version, you've saved your self a few quid... But you're missing out for sure.
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Post by chris995 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:16 pm

lol #fanboys^

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Post by matjones » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:43 pm

shadowfax wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:17 pm
matjones wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:17 pm
Very little out there to touch Trilian imho
Hi, yeah, I've got Trilian, the thing about Broomstick is that it just more or less plays itself, lay the chords out and it'll play a bassline, not always desirable but sometimes handy for a simple quick bassline.. :) :)
If you're after a reasonable 'slap' style bass VI then Waves 'Bass Slapper' (definitely combine with their 'one knob pumper' if you're British ;) ) is pretty decent for the $29 it's on sale for at the moment... been having some good fun with it myself and it doesn't sound too far away from my old Warwick :D
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Post by TEEF » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:36 pm

chris995 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:16 pm
lol #fanboys^
Lol #naysayer^ #spoonfedbaby^ #lackofintelligence^ #bedwetter^
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Post by raino » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:18 pm

TEEF wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:36 pm
chris995 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:16 pm
lol #fanboys^
Lol #naysayer^ #spoonfedbaby^ #lackofintelligence^ #bedwetter^
Really?

Both of you take a deep breath, don't go there.
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Post by TEEF » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:11 am

Lol #referee^ #manwhowearstrousers^ #lowercasesignature^

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm just goofing around. :D :twisted:
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Post by raino » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:19 am

TEEF wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:11 am
Lol #referee^ #manwhowearstrousers^ #lowercasesignature^

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm just goofing around. :D :twisted:
Oh, never mind. I just noticed the thread is on page 4. Weird s#!^ always starts happening beyond page 3.
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Lol #truedat^ #youmustrespondinhashtags^


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Post by Exposure » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:11 am

Yeah I completely agree. I can hear all the people now saying "32 bit is old, outdated and needs to be scrapped". Fact of the matter is a LOT of projects rely on 32bit plugins and now don't work with the latest version of Cubase- this has been a massive pain and still no luck with J-bridge for those plugins I still rely on. Sure, there may be no need to keep supporting old technologies in terms of new updates etc, but just keep your software compatible with older versions of things, surely?
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Post by raino » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:01 am

Exposure wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:11 am
Yeah I completely agree. I can hear all the people now saying "32 bit is old, outdated and needs to be scrapped". Fact of the matter is a LOT of projects rely on 32bit plugins and now don't work with the latest version of Cubase- this has been a massive pain and still no luck with J-bridge for those plugins I still rely on. Sure, there may be no need to keep supporting old technologies in terms of new updates etc, but just keep your software compatible with older versions of things, surely?
That's just being melodramatic. How massively painful can firing up 8.5 really be?

Software developers don't just drop backwards compatibility on a whim to annoy folks. They do it for good reasons, typically because maintaining compatibility keeps them from making necessary improvements and fixes. C9 got a brand new audio engine. While I don't have any inside info - I'd bet the old engine was on its last legs, ancient code barely held together by glue, kludges & prayers causing all sorts of problems. And maybe part of the cost of the new engine was to leave 32-bit behind.

If your plugins don't even work with J-bridge, that could be a clue they don't play well with others.

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Post by Exposure » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:08 pm

For sure man. Granted there's a lot I don't know and understand about developing software (nearly nothing) so I'm sure there are reasons for dropping it.

I'm just venting because I haven't found a way for it to work yet, or at least haven't made the transition to everything being 64bit yet.

If you were able to shed any light on my current problems with JBridge I'd massively appreciate it - not able to load either C8.5 or C9 at the moment :/

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Post by raino » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:30 am

Exposure wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:08 pm
If you were able to shed any light on my current problems with JBridge I'd massively appreciate it - not able to load either C8.5 or C9 at the moment :/

viewtopic.php?f=250&t=107242&p=698000#p698000
Sorry can't help, I dropped my 32's years ago when I saw where things were heading. Best advice I have is to never get too attached to any tech - because it is all ephemeral (and I've got the full storage boxes to prove it).

Good luck getting it working. Looks like you've got the J-bridge wise folks helping in the other thread.
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Post by Romantique Tp » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:51 am

Make sure that you're using the latest jBridge beta.
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