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WL8 Price

Post by wodehouse » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:07 pm

I want to buy the upgrade to WL8 from WL7 but I can't see any way of doing this from the Steiny site.

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Post by S4410 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:40 pm

No upgrade prices announced yet.Let's hope they are low..I won't be upgrading otherwise,Wavelab 7 suits me fine
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Post by markino » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:36 pm

On the paper, on terms of features, Elements 7 and 8 look very similar... :(
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Re: WL8 Price

Post by MrSoundman » Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:49 pm

I'm waiting until after the manual has been made available for download, then after I've read it, I'll decide whether I need the upgrade or not.

There's no mention of any changes to e.g. the spectrum editor in the marketing blurb. I'm OK for limiters, compressors and dithering, I've already got CurveEQ thanks to Cubase 7, EBU metering with DigiCheck, don't need speaker management, so it's going to be down to workflow improvements .... the "volume clip handles" looks interesting, but it's hard to understand what AutoClip is and what it will bring that will be worth the upgrade.

So in other words ... the manual better have enough detail in it this time to explain these things before I buy!!
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Re: WL8 Price

Post by Arjan P » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:10 pm

I haven't seen anything about a real manual yet. In the '150+ Further Improvements' section it says: "And the improved in-app help system provides guidance in any situation." Uh-huh... :?
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Post by shauli » Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:54 pm

Are we lucky to have Eucon integration?
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Re: WL8 Price

Post by Lippi » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:21 pm

At the end of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... ijzJDbRj8g
you can hear the update prices: 149 Euro for Wavelab 6, 99 Euro for Wavelab 7
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Re: WL8 Price

Post by PG » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:53 pm

I confirm the manual is rewritten entirely, weights 5x more than the previous one. It is not mentionned because marketing does not consider this as a "feature", I guess.

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Post by MrSoundman » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:24 pm

PG wrote:weights 5x more
Yay! That adds some "weight" to the argument :D
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Post by emasters » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:11 pm

PG - I noticed in the WL v8 specs for Mac, OS X 10.8 only is supported, not 10.7. Was this to reduce the testing effort on a single OS, or is there a technical limitation with OS X 10.7? Thanks.
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Post by etl17 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:19 pm

PG wrote:I confirm the manual is rewritten entirely, weights 5x more than the previous one. It is not mentionned because marketing does not consider this as a "feature", I guess.

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Post by Justin P » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:51 pm

Lippi wrote:At the end of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... ijzJDbRj8g
you can hear the update prices: 149 Euro for Wavelab 6, 99 Euro for Wavelab 7
Thanks for sharing the video. I think the upgrade prices are pretty fair. The guy doing the demo says that WL8 will be available in a few weeks (in April) but I've seen other info on the Steinberg site that says May 2013.

I hope the guy in the video ends up being correct.
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Re: WL8 Price

Post by wodehouse » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:11 pm

Seeing as I will be updating anyway, can we download the manual prior to WL 8 going on sale? Even the marketing department can see that would be a useful marketing idea.

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Post by Arjan P » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:04 pm

PG wrote:I confirm the manual is rewritten entirely, weights 5x more than the previous one. It is not mentionned because marketing does not consider this as a "feature", I guess.
That's good to know! And I very much like the new features in the loudness department and the master transport section. This will be a direct purchase for me - the price sounds reasonable.
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Re: WL8 Price

Post by PG » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:11 pm

Osx 10.7 is also supported.

There is a possibility of update from wavelab element 7 to wavelab 8, for the price difference (i think).
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Post by MrSoundman » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:40 pm

wodehouse wrote:can we download the manual prior to WL 8 going on sale?
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Re: WL8 Price

Post by emery » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:37 am

Is Osx 10.6.8 supported?
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Re: WL8 Price

Post by markino » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:54 am

Any improvements in the Time Stretch & Pitch Correct department (Elements)?
And about Sonnox plug-ins?
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Re: WL8 Price

Post by PG » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:03 am

Osx 10.6.8 is not supported. It might work with eg. 8.0.0, but there is no guarantee for future updates.

Time stetching has not changed.

Sonnox plugins for mac osx 32 bit, have been updated (cocoa versions)
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Re: WL8 Price

Post by Bassman » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:19 am

Hm, why I should update? Since WLab 7 GUI isn't made for me(!), I started my mastering sessions in Nuendo and with N6, these process is more comfortable. All these Plugins from WLab 8 are in N6 yet. Why i should pay for this again? Loudness meter, Loudness track and control monitors in Nuendo already. I had hoped there are big changes in GUI, but I don't see any in WLab 8 videos. Think, these will be the first version which I skip. Mastering in Nuendo and only fine-tuning/CD-burning in WLab 7 ...
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Re: WL8 Price

Post by S4410 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:47 am

I think i'll skip this upgrade.
I am not interested in speaker management and i already payed for some features (loudness meter,plugins) in Cubase 7.If Steinberg would offer me some kind of discount for owing latest Cubase and Wavelab i could consider it.
But Steinberg never does such generous gestures...
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Re: WL8 Price

Post by wodehouse » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:58 am

As I suggested, if Steinberg would allow us to Pre-order then even though the prog is not available until May- it would be extremely useful to get a start with the manual.

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Post by Vocalpoint » Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:42 pm

Bassman wrote:Hm, why I should update? Since WLab 7 GUI isn't made for me(!), I started my mastering sessions in Nuendo and with N6, these process is more comfortable. All these Plugins from WLab 8 are in N6 yet. Why i should pay for this again? Loudness meter, Loudness track and control monitors in Nuendo already. I had hoped there are big changes in GUI, but I don't see any in WLab 8 videos. Think, these will be the first version which I skip. Mastering in Nuendo and only fine-tuning/CD-burning in WLab 7 ...
Agreed. If you already have Nuendo 6 - there is really nothing here that you need.

The lack of a modern GUI update in WL8 is beyond disappointing to me but then again - 99 bucks (or whatever the upgrade cost is) is better than $349.

I already know that I will be skipping the Nuendo 6 upgrade (That app is officially a mess compared with the speed and clarity of Studio One 2.5) but I will need to look at the WL8 manual in depth prior to deciding if I am going to bother with the WL8 update. Plus - I am certain that Studio One 3.x will be adding all the nice loudness metering etc that I am really looking for - so it may pay to wait for that anyway....

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Re: WL8 Price

Post by emery » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:10 pm

I also have N5 and demo of N6 and can do my mastering in it.

Only thing I really like in wl7 is the Smart bypass function, which shows the difference between original and processed master. Which I think is a must have.

In N5 or N6 you have to make a separate channel and match loudness manually, which takes time and is not as accurate.

If someone develops a vst plugin for such purposes, which can be used in Nuendo then I would do it there and use WL only for DDP creation.

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Re: WL8 Price

Post by TimoWildenhain » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:26 pm

Hello,

WaveLab 8 and Elements 8 will be available in May 2013!
And yes, there is a new manual, renewned in-app help system, and in total 150+ new
improvements.

A major GUI change will happen probably with the next version, however if WL 7 is opened next
to WL 8 you will notice a clear refinement on the graphics side.

While there are tools and functions also available in Nuendo 6, for instance, WaveLab 8 can
not only do loudness metering, but also processing to an individual target scale (or standard
EBU), which is not possible in Nuendo 6. Also, typical mastering tools such as high-quality
dither, Meta data inclusion, updated Batch processing considering EBU standards, high-res
zooming for editing, SuperClips for making large session handling easy (and common PQ editing)
and much more is exclusive to WaveLab 8.

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